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Posted on 3/5/21 at 2:56 pm to
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 2:56 pm to
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Big Beef vs. Better Boy


Better Boy was my go-to for a long time. There was a discussion several pages back and Big Beef seemed to get high praise from several people. I'm sure I've grown them at some point in the past but don't really remember. So I can't make a definitive call.

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Also, anyone here grow San Marzano's


I know one poster (Lsulefty, I think) grows them and really likes them. Hopefully he'll chime in.
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 3:22 pm to
How do you usually prune your tomato plants pillage? All my plants are over a foot tall and I want to trim off all the lower branches and only leave the top ones remaining but don't know if that is over kill or not.

I only started pruning late last season.
Posted by eng08
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 3:41 pm to
Growing them both. Also trying out a Banskia Queen from the dwarf tomato project.
This post was edited on 3/5/21 at 3:43 pm
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 4:29 pm to
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How do you usually prune your tomato plants pillage?


Before transplanting? Or just in general?

Before transplanting I just pinch off however much of the lower branches I need to bury them deep. After that I prune as needed. First to get all of the ones touching the ground, then any that may be diseased or damaged. A good rule of thumb I read one time was to never remove more than 1/3 of the foliage at one time.
This post was edited on 3/5/21 at 4:33 pm
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 8:01 pm to
No more digging in my garden for you, Mr a-hole.
Posted by ABucks11
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 8:16 pm to
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anyone here grow San Marzano's?


I usually grow 2 San Marzano plants. They are indeterminate and grow like crazy.
Posted by WigSplitta22
The Bottom
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 9:07 pm to
I feel like you are going to be spinning your wheels trying to sit there and catch squirrels. They are never ending little frickers. Breeding machines
Posted by labguy
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2020
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 9:25 pm to
I used to grow Better Boy also. Big Beef have better disease resistance and don't seem to crack as much. I prefer Big Beef.
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 9:53 pm to
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I usually grow 2 San Marzano plants. They are indeterminate and grow like crazy.

shite, I'm about to be loaded with tomatoes then, because I have 12 of those bastards going right now...
This post was edited on 3/5/21 at 9:53 pm
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 10:12 pm to
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Big Beef vs. Better Boy


I like Big Beef much better than Better Boy. When I started growing tomatoes I grew Better Boys. They did fine but I found them to be very meh and they cracked a lot. I also grow Celebrities every year but this year I'm not planting any. Big Beef replaced Celebrity and Better Boy in my garden. I grow a lot of weird tomatoes just because I think they look cool, but I have gotten to where I always plant at least two Big Beef plants. Other than small tomatoes they've been my only hybrids the last couple seasons. For me, they've been super reliable, consistent, and they taste good. They don't crack as much as Celebrities and Better Boys in my experience either, which is a huge plus.

Celebrity plants will make more tomatoes but they just don't have a great taste to me. The last two seasons, I've used them for salsa.

Just my thoughts, but I'd go with Big Beef.

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I used to grow Better Boy also. Big Beef have better disease resistance and don't seem to crack as much. I prefer Big Beef.


Agree 100%.
This post was edited on 3/5/21 at 10:15 pm
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/5/21 at 10:24 pm to
On another note, have any of y'all planted out yet? I think I'm going to at least plant my tomatoes out this Sunday afternoon. I finally got all my plants hardened off with the sun we've had and they have really outgrown their pots. Peppers could probably use another week or so but I may go ahead and plant them out too.

eta: I'm in St. Tammany.
This post was edited on 3/5/21 at 10:25 pm
Posted by TheBoo
South to Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
5351 posts
Posted on 3/5/21 at 11:50 pm to
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I have 12 of those bastards going right now

I’ve got 8 ready to be transplanted, should be fun.

My dad’s go-to has always been better boy which is a habit he passed on to me, but I think the local nursery mixed up the labels and I grabbed big beef in a rush, which is why I asked y’all thoughts. I appreciate all the feedback.

At this point I have 8 SM, 4 creole, and 4 better boy or big beef, we shall see what those end up being.
This post was edited on 3/5/21 at 11:51 pm
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 3/6/21 at 5:41 am to
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I feel like you are going to be spinning your wheels trying to sit there and catch squirrels. They are never ending little frickers. Breeding machines


I know. I have to do something, though. Them little bastards turned my yard into Swiss cheese and already dug up a few of my sunflowers. In the first week I caught 7 with the trap. Then I had about a week of no activity. Yesterday I noticed more digging in the garden so I set the trap out again. It’ll be an ongoing battle for sure. Between the trap and the sprinkler I’m just hoping to slow them down as much as possible.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 3/6/21 at 5:43 am to
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have any of y'all planted out yet?


Planted my Roma’s last weekend. Will probably plant the Beefmasters this weekend. The peppers and eggplant can probably wait another week or two, but it won’t be long.
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 3/6/21 at 8:17 am to
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Certain varieties grow best with certain other ones. I'd recommend hitting up your local Ag school. I know Clemson here in SC has a very detailed guide on what types of blueberry bushes to grow together for the best yield. Mine are only three years old now, and last year we had a bumper crop off only two small bushes.
Definitely, we have a local guy who's side business is just blueberry's ... and remember they like the ph to be real acidic.
Posted by ABucks11
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
1232 posts
Posted on 3/6/21 at 8:20 am to
Yeah I could pick 30 San Marzanos at a time from 2 plants. They are smaller than Romas and we would make sauce with them. It takes a lot of tomatoes to make a sauce.

They easily got 5 feet tall and 3 ft wide. My garden looks like a shanty town with poles and string string to keep them off other plants.
This post was edited on 3/6/21 at 8:23 am
Posted by good_2_geaux
Member since Feb 2015
792 posts
Posted on 3/6/21 at 8:57 am to
Pic

Wanted to check in to see what you think is going on with my cherry tomatoes and what I need to do. Starting to see a brown/rust color forming on some of the leaves.
This post was edited on 3/6/21 at 9:00 am
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
15679 posts
Posted on 3/6/21 at 9:07 am to
That looks like sunscald. Overexposure to sunlight. Were these some you started from seeds?
Posted by fjlee90
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
8511 posts
Posted on 3/6/21 at 10:09 am to
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Better Boy


For me. Also like the Better bush. Just easier to manage all around.

As far as San Marzano's, I haven't dabbled. It is on the list. Every year I pick 1 or 2 varieties to give a try.
Posted by good_2_geaux
Member since Feb 2015
792 posts
Posted on 3/6/21 at 10:11 am to
Yep, started from seed and transplanted to a flower pot.
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