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HVAC Keeps Blowing Fuses

Posted on 1/22/24 at 9:10 am
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
23128 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 9:10 am
HVAC stopped working a few days ago. I had it serviced last year when this happened (it's a new system) and the tech found that it was a blown fuse and bad thermostat. He swapped them out and everything has worked just fine for the past 6 months or so.

So, before I called in a service call, I bought some fuses and swapped out the fuse (it was blown). Unit fired right up and then the fuse blew after about 15 minutes. Swapped out another one thinking maybe I did something wrong (it's an awkward angle and I thought I might have bent the fuse). Same thing. 15 minutes and blown.

Any idea what might be causing this? Something that's easy to fix on my own? Or am I out of pocket for a service call?
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
172258 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 9:11 am to
your hvac is such a whore.
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
23128 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 9:13 am to
quote:

your hvac is such a whore.


At least she let's me watch.
Posted by LSUSports247
Member since Apr 2007
858 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 9:14 am to
I had a similar issue once and it turned out the contactor in the outside unit was bad.
Posted by Cotten
Tennessee
Member since Jan 2018
1560 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 9:16 am to
I'm cautious to suggest anything based on (respectfully...) what sounds like minimal troubleshooting skills and knowledge...so I'll first suggest you call a pro before you hurt yourself or burn your house down.

That being said, something is causing the unit to pull too many amps; I wouldn't suggest ignoring it and I also definitely don't suggest to just keep throwing new fuses in. It could be a bad/failing cap, loose wire at the shutoff or panel, something with the motor or compressor causing them to struggle; overall you need to run a few quick tests to check a handful of different things.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
131074 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 9:17 am to
quote:

Any idea what might be causing this?
Is the fuse blowing when you turn the central heat on? If so, do you have gas heat or electric?
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
21668 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 9:19 am to
I had the same symptoms a few years ago. A wire on the outside unit was rubbing against a corner, and vibration had worn the insulation until it grounded.
This post was edited on 1/22/24 at 10:44 am
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
13371 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 9:20 am to
What size fuses (amperage wise) if high amp, then compressor is usually the culprit (could just be start-up amps going above fuse rating. Low amp fuses then they are likely for Condensing unit fan or Indoor unit blower fans drawing too many amps
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
23128 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 9:21 am to
quote:

Is the fuse blowing when you turn the central heat on? If so, do you have gas heat or electric?


Electric.
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
23128 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 9:21 am to
quote:

I has the same symptoms a few years ago. A wire on the outside unit was rubbing against a corner, and vibration had worn the insulation until it grounded.


I knew it was the fricking squirrels!
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
131074 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 9:22 am to
quote:

then compressor is usually the culprit
Are you assuming he's running his air conditioner which is causing the fuse to blow?
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
23128 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 9:22 am to
quote:

What size fuses (amperage wise) if high amp, then compressor is usually the culprit (could just be start-up amps going above fuse rating. Low amp fuses then they are likely for Condensing unit fan or Indoor unit blower fans drawing too many amps
quote:

What size fuses (amperage wise) if high amp, then compressor is usually the culprit (could just be start-up amps going above fuse rating. Low amp fuses then they are likely for Condensing unit fan or Indoor unit blower fans drawing too many amps


3s.
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
23128 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 9:24 am to
quote:

I'm cautious to suggest anything based on (respectfully...) what sounds like minimal troubleshooting skills and knowledge...so I'll first suggest you call a pro before you hurt yourself or burn your house down.

That being said, something is causing the unit to pull too many amps; I wouldn't suggest ignoring it and I also definitely don't suggest to just keep throwing new fuses in. It could be a bad/failing cap, loose wire at the shutoff or panel, something with the motor or compressor causing them to struggle; overall you need to run a few quick tests to check a handful of different things.


I know. This is really beyond my sphere of knowledge. I can replace a thermostat, filters and the fuses. That's about it. Thing is, I just bought a whole new system 18 months ago. This shouldn't be happening. |

Oh well, I'll get a tech out. Least it's warming up this week.
Posted by catfish 62
Atlanta
Member since Mar 2010
5330 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 9:25 am to
I had this same issue after having a zoning system put in to control different parts of my house. The tech came back and changed the fuse, worked one day, then blew again. They sent out a more senior tech and he told me i had a bad switch board. They swapped that out and it has been fine since.
Posted by Turnblad85
Member since Sep 2022
3181 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 11:15 am to
intermittent problems are a real bitch. If the system is that new then I would hope the company that installed it would fix it on their dime. Not always the case.

Visually looking at all the pinch/rub spots where your low voltage wiring could be shorting out and frying the fuse is a good place to start with something like that.

An good tech with experience with your specific system would be best because there might be a pattern they've seen that could be a real shortcut to the problem.

Fyi, most of the time fuses just don't "go bad". There is a reason it blew and if someone just wants to stick a new one in and call it good, then maybe its time to look for a new guy.


I was out at my BIL last summer looking at a unit because he was having breakers tripping on his unit even after the tech came out. It ended up being a chipmunk chewed bare both high and low volt wires where they left the condensing unit. Not seeing this, the tech decided the solution would be to replace the 40amp breaker with a 50, and bypass the low-voltage safety shutoffs on the condenser. Think it was Friday the the 'ol boy had the weekend on his mind.
Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
12133 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 11:20 am to
quote:

What size fuses (amperage wise) if high amp,


I’m assuming the OP is talking about the low voltage fuse that is operating the thermostat. If it were the protective device for the compressor, it would likely be a breaker unless the house is very very old.

For the OP, it sounds like your problems are on the low voltage/control side of the system. I’d check out the low voltage wiring going out to the contactor as someone else suggested. It’ll be two little 18 gauge solid core wires that come down the wall outside at the unit. Also check to see if your thermostat has a “common” wire that may be shorting across another wire at your thermostat. L If those wires look good it’s likely going to require some troubleshooting on the control board.

Keep us in the loop. Good luck!
This post was edited on 1/22/24 at 11:22 am
Posted by gumbeaux
Member since Jun 2004
4768 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 11:40 am to
quote:

I had the same symptoms a few years ago. A wire on the outside unit was rubbing against a corner, and vibration had worn the insulation until it grounded.


I’m surprised that some of the wiring on an outside unit is exposed and not inside a cover.
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17630 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 12:33 pm to
quote:

I had the same symptoms a few years ago. A wire on the outside unit was rubbing against a corner, and vibration had worn the insulation until it grounded.


Had exact same thing happen, bitch to find but easy to fix
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5605 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 1:38 pm to
What size fuse you talking about - 3 or 5 amp fuse on the control board in the air handler (you said you had electric heat)? Higher rated fuse associated with the outside unit - thinking you may have a heat pump?

You have Nest thermostat by chance? They are known to cause issues like this - seems your like problem from a year ago that the tech “fixed” might be the same culprit a year later particularly being a newer) system.

If the system is less than year old labor would likely would be covered under warranty, if more than year old probably not, but then some firms might cover if it’s slightly over a year particularly if the problem is the same one that was supposed to be “fixed” the first time around.

TLDR: would help if you provided a few more details on what fuse is blowing.
This post was edited on 1/22/24 at 1:48 pm
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
38267 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 3:16 pm to
quote:

quote:

then compressor is usually the culprit

Are you assuming he's running his air conditioner which is causing the fuse to blow?




If it's a heat pump, the compressor works for either.
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