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Anyway to go full DEFCON 1 on rat problem?

Posted on 12/6/19 at 3:29 pm
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 12/6/19 at 3:29 pm
Have a rental property with a rat issue. It’s pier and beam on a hill so the were underneath the house. No sign of rodents ever up until a month ago. Then I saw the first one 3 weeks ago in the trash can tossing something away. Then they got inside. Now I’ve killed 14 total the past 2 weeks, today I found 2 inside the AC closet in sticky traps. Wtf. I have 4 bait stations and 6 traps out. But the tenants have kids. I have a pest company checking the traps with me. The rats were getting in through the back of the AC closet from under neath the house. I’ve tried to seal it up. But it’s a late 1980s pier and beam. I don’t think a total seal job is even possible outside of a major project.

I’m at the point I want to smoke them out, get an air rifle with a green light at night, etc.

Once you seal up and have traps and poison, is there any other steps?
This post was edited on 12/7/19 at 6:51 am
Posted by wickowick
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Posted on 12/6/19 at 3:47 pm to
Posted by LEASTBAY
Member since Aug 2007
14297 posts
Posted on 12/6/19 at 5:53 pm to
Cat. I wouldn't put poison inside then seal it. Dead rat will end up in the walls or somewhere guaranteed.
Posted by UltimaParadox
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2008
40861 posts
Posted on 12/6/19 at 6:30 pm to
There is repellant, but it's iffy.

Trapping until they are gone seems to be the only surefire way
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20481 posts
Posted on 12/6/19 at 6:35 pm to
I may do the trash can that’s not a bad idea. It’s a single mom with kids so myself or the pest guy has to check them is the problem. I just want to bring in some beagles, smoke them out, and chase them out at this point. My mind is blown how it goes from 0 signs of rodents to catching 14 in 2 weeks. I thought they were gone then I got 2 more today. So I feel helpless.
Posted by Art Vandelay
LOUISIANA
Member since Sep 2005
10702 posts
Posted on 12/6/19 at 6:35 pm to
Ratinator google it. I’m too lazy
Posted by eng08
Member since Jan 2013
5997 posts
Posted on 12/6/19 at 7:22 pm to
Goodnature A24. It’s compressed air to kill the rats, re-usable and you can put it out away from the house.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62801 posts
Posted on 12/6/19 at 7:38 pm to
FYI "DEFCON 5" is a peace time status. "DEFCON 1" is nuclear war time.
Posted by dakarx
Member since Sep 2018
6851 posts
Posted on 12/6/19 at 8:54 pm to
Get a few of snakes and toss them under the house... won't have rodent problem.for very long.

Not being funny, had field mice infiltrate my place in OK, caught a few king snakes and rat snakes, released them under the house, in a couple weeks there were no mice to be seen. The snakes moved on once the food source was gone, all but the one who decided to pay the wife a visit in the sink cabinet....poor thing got introduced to a cast iron skillet.
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 12/6/19 at 11:18 pm to
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
38713 posts
Posted on 12/6/19 at 11:53 pm to
I have rental properties. I bought one a few years ago that was infested. Pitched Contract Block poison blocks and with a week days were gone. This is the same stuff you will overpay a pest control company to pitch.
This post was edited on 12/6/19 at 11:55 pm
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20481 posts
Posted on 12/7/19 at 6:51 am to
quote:

FYI "DEFCON 5" is a peace time status. "DEFCON 1" is nuclear war time.



Ha my bad. Thanks. Fixed
Posted by boudinman
Member since Nov 2019
5056 posts
Posted on 12/9/19 at 9:05 pm to
Just get the red bucket at TSC. Same stuff lot better price
Posted by Capital Cajun
Over Yonder
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 12/10/19 at 7:46 pm to
You have to close up the access and eliminate the reason they are getting in.
Posted by Phideaux
Cades Cove
Member since May 2008
2504 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 10:56 pm to
Don’t use rodenticide if there are kids around and if there is any chance another animal such as a family pet will have access to the dead rats.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20481 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:36 am to
quote:

You have to close up the access and eliminate the reason they are getting in.



Again though this is an older pier and beam home, I'm not sure if this is even possible to completely seal up?

The damn things got on the kitchen island last night and ate some avacado. I'm full blown Caddishack at this point. I spent $120 on Amazon last night buying 2 5 gallon bucket roller bars, 20 sticky traps, 12 more snap traps, and some 1 bite poison. Maybe some other stuff too. Went down the youtube rabbit hole of rat traps.

I'm having the tenant put the food in bins in the pantry and on the counter.
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
6455 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 11:23 am to
Cat or king snake.
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 12:20 pm to
Yep, this stuff works well. They don't die right away. It actually makes them extremely thirsty and they return to their water source to die. As long as their water source isn't in your rental house, you should be ok. That being said, make sure you don't have any plumbing leaks under the house or inside the house.
Posted by Capital Cajun
Over Yonder
Member since Aug 2007
5525 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 2:45 pm to
quote:

Again though this is an older pier and beam home, I'm not sure if this is even possible to completely seal up?


Until you seal up the access, it will never end. The rodent population is essentially endless.

Call a professional exterminator, they are really good at locating entrance points.
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 2:54 pm to
quote:

The damn things got on the kitchen island last night and ate some avacado. I'm full blown Caddishack at this point. I spent $120 on Amazon last night buying 2 5 gallon bucket roller bars, 20 sticky traps, 12 more snap traps, and some 1 bite poison. Maybe some other stuff too. Went down the youtube rabbit hole of rat traps.

I'm having the tenant put the food in bins in the pantry and on the counter.

Your tenant can help by eliminating ANY food left out. I'm talking dirty dishes in the sink, dirty dishes left in a dishwasher (tell 'em to run it every night, even if not full)...they need to make sure kids aren't leaving dishes in bedrooms. Indoor trash needs to be taken out EVERY night, and it also needs a secure, tight lid. All foods need to be in fridge or sealed tight inside plastic boxes (buy some of the rubbermaid bins for tenant). Those bastards have a great sense of smell, and lax housekeeping draws them in with the quickness.

The outdoor trash can needs a heavy, secure lid, and it needs to be stored away from the house if at all possible. Talk to tenant to ensure that they're putting the trash out 2x weekly whether or not the can is full. Any pet food left outside is just a welcome mat for rodents, as is a full birdfeeder of seeds.

Will tenant consider adopting a big housecat? They are excellent rodent deterrents. Rats will often avoid spaces where cats live.
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