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150 gallon pond - SELA - I want a fish

Posted on 2/17/20 at 10:13 am
Posted by AutoYes_Clown
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2012
5176 posts
Posted on 2/17/20 at 10:13 am
When I purchased my home, it had a basic 150 gallon plastic liner pond with fountain. I didnt realize until 6 months later that it had 2 fish, wasnt koi maybe a type of goldfish. They died over that winter during a freeze.

I would like to add a fish or two back and actually keep them alive this time. The pond is in full sun but I can build a cover. Where do I start looking on what type of fish, what kind of additional equipment (heater, filter, etc) , and what kind of maintenance? I would like to stick with as little up keep as possible.
Posted by SpeckledTiger
Denham Springs
Member since Jul 2010
1477 posts
Posted on 2/17/20 at 11:34 am to
I kept 50+ 25 cent goldfish alive for three years in a natural bottom pond, 20x40x6. They ended up being about 6-8" the last time I saw one. I didn't do any maintenance whatsoever.
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5266 posts
Posted on 2/17/20 at 11:34 am to
2 or 3 koi are a good option, and maybe 12 or so mosqutofish (Gambusia affinis).

Filtration, just google filtration units for small koi ponds, plenty options, for less than $100 and find an option you think might work best for you. Options include filtration units submerged in the pond, and those outside the pond, with a submersible pump that pumps water into the external filter - making it logistically easier to clean. You can disguise/hide an external filter with plants, etc.

I doubt you need a heater but small submersible external heater can be purchased if needed down the road in temperature extremes.

Obviously if the unit has a fountain you have power source for a filtration unit.

Many people with ornamental fish ponds have a tendency of over feed the fish. Seldom should fish be feed more than 3% of body weight per day (growth diet) and a maintenance diet (non-growth) is about 1%. Floating feeds are best because see the fish when feeding to check on their general condition. There are many “natural” foods in the pond that the fish will eat.

Here is an LSU AgCenter publication on the subject to get you started. Enjoying Ornamental Fish Ponds in Louisiana

Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30020 posts
Posted on 2/17/20 at 12:39 pm to
just add a heater to the pond to keep the water from getting too cold

honestly though, 150 gallon is tiny and hardly seems worth it, its better investment if you just put a big aquarium in the house and get some nice fish for it. after all, nobody honestly GAF about a fish in your yards kiddie pool except the cat next door
This post was edited on 2/17/20 at 12:40 pm
Posted by Dandaman
Louisiana
Member since May 2017
705 posts
Posted on 2/17/20 at 10:02 pm to
I had a pump run 4 hours each night and kept 5 goldfish in a pond half that size. Did cleanings every three months (scrape out leaves and water change, add prime water treatment) and the fish lasted for 4-5 years. Even through freezes (although, I would get a tank heater if you get below 30 for too long). I didn’t even feed them - they will eat algae, tad poles, mosquitoes.

Ribbon snakes and birds will try to get them, so give them lili pads as cover. Also, shade the pond as you need the right amount of algae. No direct sun.

I got the fish as “feeder fish” from petco. They turned into beautiful, long tailed gold fish about 5” long.

This post was edited on 2/17/20 at 10:04 pm
Posted by TigerGman
Center of the Universe
Member since Sep 2006
11216 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 6:35 am to
quote:

2 fish, wasnt koi maybe a type of goldfish. They died over that winter during a freeze.



That's odd, how deep is it? I've kept GOldfish for years outdoors and they've never died in even the hardest freezes. And I don't feed them either.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20451 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 6:52 am to
Did you see them dead? Or just gone? My parents had a pond and birds would eat them is why I ask
This post was edited on 2/18/20 at 6:52 am
Posted by VernonPLSUfan
Leesville, La.
Member since Sep 2007
15846 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 8:13 am to
Blue John Jody done got yo fish.
Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
17166 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 11:03 am to
Goldfish can literally survive freezing and thawing out. The only real concern is the ammonia excretions which can be resolved through water changes, filtration, and sludge maintenance.

Easy informative info here: Pond Informer
Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 11:22 am to
Install a UV light is a must. That kills off some of the green slime. Beef up the filter system as much as you can afford.
Posted by dakarx
Member since Sep 2018
6844 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 12:37 pm to
quote:

150 gallon is tiny and hardly seems worth it


This... my indoor saltwater tank is bigger than that :) for an outdoor pond it will boil any inhabitants in full sun (not to mention the algae growth will be hard to keep up with). Going much larger will reduce your maintenance work, and increase your odds of success.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
26995 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 6:24 pm to
150 gallon is small for koi as they get bigger. Lots of poop. Very easy to over fish your pond.

Koi do not need a heater. Koi will survive in a pond with a frozen surface. They sit deep and don’t move. Tropical fish usually die in winter. Prolonged temps under 55.

Do not feed koi in temps even nearing 55 degrees. Their metabolism slows so much that food just sits in their belly and makes them sick.
Posted by Thecoz
Member since Dec 2018
2533 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 10:01 pm to
just buy some feeder fish ...get the larger ones..
the white ones will get decent size and stay like a carp...the gold one vary...some like carp but will get very very long fins..get a few multi color ones ..they tend to be more like the goldfish at a japanese store (rounder) but also will get long fins...you will be suprised what those "mutt" feeder fish will turn into......
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