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Posted on 7/6/21 at 2:13 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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Dude, you had a heart attack, and you've been fat your whole adult life.
And you are still trying to rationalize it and make excuses. I'm glad you're OK, but damn dude, have some self awareness
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Mingo Was His NameO
You catch a lot of shite but you're spot on with this one.
Posted on 7/6/21 at 2:37 pm to RD Dawg
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Per the BMI almost everyone is "obese" I fluctuated between between 205 and 220 most of my adult life and very active (worked out,jogged,hiked) My job changed the last 5 years or so and I took on far more responsibilities along with much more travel.I also had additional knee surgery which pretty much prevented jogging.Sorry,I detest gyms and treadmills.
I'm not trying to be a dick, but you need to hear it; You think it's normal to be obese/overweight because most people around you are probably obese or overweight.
I thought that I wasn't that bad off because in Alexandria, where the obesity rate is over 30%, I could always find someone fatter than myself. It wasn't until moving to a city where the obesity rate was almost 10% lower that I realized how large I was. Even now with a good hunk of muscle mass, probably more than most people, I am still overweight at 180 pounds. Even if it isn't fat, excess weight creates stress on your heart and joints. Despite everyone in my family telling me that I'd look like a cancer patient (I wouldn't, they are just huge), I need to lose about 20 more pounds. It takes something to switch this perspective, so I don't blame you for not being able to see it. It's tough.
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I will say I was healthier than 90%
Of the EMT's in the emergency room along the nurses and medical assistants...talk about obese! Especially the EMT's.
You may have very well been healthier than 90% of the people in the ER. But that just means they were very obese.
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This was definitely a wake up call but I will say I was already headed in the right direction but the weight loss and getting back in shape isn't gonna correct a blockage even though my BP and heart rate had greatly improved.
I think you are definitely on the right track. But it's pretty clear cut. If you don't lose weight, you will likely die prematurely. I don't know you, so I don't know the best way to break through. But it wasn't until a doctor told me that point blank that I started to listen. There is no point in sugar coating this.
Posted on 7/6/21 at 3:48 pm to Odysseus32
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I'm not trying to be a dick, but you need to hear it; You think it's normal to be obese/overweight because most people around you are probably obese or overweight.
Dude just STFU and you have no idea about my background or "most people around me" I was a HS and College athlete and stayed active almost entire adult life. I know all about BMI and how deceptive they can be.Ive also had talked to 3 different cardiologists the last 48 hours.Ill go ahead with their advice over a 20 something cyber Richard Simmons and even though I stated earlier that I hated gyms,I've spent countless hours in them.
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It takes something to switch this perspective, so I don't blame you for not being able to see it. It's tough
Good Lord.Ive lived in big metropolitan areas my entire life and I know what fit people look like.Ive seen folks my height and weight that look like complete slobs and others that look like they're in unbelievable shape.
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If you don't lose weight, you will likely die prematurely. I don't know you
Exactly and have no idea about my family genetics or how serious my procedure was and health leading up to the procedure.
My whole purpose of the OP was to give folks a heads up about taking their meds and paying attention to the warning signs regardless of vitals and mine were excellent.
Posted on 7/6/21 at 3:52 pm to Odysseus32
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Odysseus32
you and mingo are spot on except the part about excess muscle putting stress on the heart. I believe personally you are correct but the doctors at barbell medicine challenged me on this last year and ......well lets just say i lost
but everything else was spot on.
His comment about according to BMI almost everyone is obese.....well that is because almost everyone is.
and jesus i hate those comments about "looking like a cancer patient" even though its just getting back to the weight many were in HS.
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I think you are definitely on the right track. But it's pretty clear cut. If you don't lose weight, you will likely die prematurely. I don't know you, so I don't know the best way to break through. But it wasn't until a doctor told me that point blank that I started to listen. There is no point in sugar coating this.
this
and his comment about exercise not stopping a blockage...blockages dont happen overnight. They are build ups over time. They also dont disappear overnight, so although the OP was much healthier than he was....much of the damage was done and was going to take a lot longer to undo.
and im pretty certain getting off the BP medicine didnt cause this, didnt help thats for sure, but BP medicine doesnt slow blockage.
Posted on 7/6/21 at 4:01 pm to RD Dawg
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Dude just STFU and you have no idea about my background or "most people around me" I was a HS and College athlete and stayed active almost entire adult life. I know all about BMI and how deceptive they can be.Ive also had talked to 3 different cardiologists the last 48 hours.Ill go ahead with their advice over a 20 something cyber Richard Simmons and even though I stated earlier that I hated gyms,I've spent countless hours in them.
You were recently 250 lbs and just had a heart attack, but whatever man, you don't need advice.
Posted on 7/6/21 at 4:15 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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Mingo Was His NameO
You're a dick..... But correct.
Posted on 7/6/21 at 4:34 pm to RD Dawg
high bp runs in the family. My younger brother had covid and his bp went really high and has been on bp meds ever since.
I check my bp whenever i go to my parents, so i dont check it regularly, but its always been generally fine.
I had some chest pains sunday night. But i can never tell if its something i should be concerned about or if its indigestion.
I check my bp whenever i go to my parents, so i dont check it regularly, but its always been generally fine.
I had some chest pains sunday night. But i can never tell if its something i should be concerned about or if its indigestion.
Posted on 7/6/21 at 7:02 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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You were recently 250 lbs and just had a heart attack, but whatever man, you don't need advice.
This. I'm glad the OP is OK, but he seems to be a standard example of the problematic aspects of health in 2021 America. He claims to have been "healthy" for most of his life, but was weighing in at 250 pounds until recently, and now is pushing the standard "take that pill" routine.
I don't blame him, per se, because he is a victim of the framework that has been pushed on the public for at least the past 40 years, but damn.
Posted on 7/6/21 at 7:54 pm to lsu777
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Almost 100% assured that you are carrying a significant amount of visceral fat. Got to change that.
Visceral fat needs to be brought up a lot more in general. It's the real pandemic that no one is discussing. The vast majority of people focus so hard on the fat on the outside they can easily see and never drill into the fat you can't so easily see but is choking the life out of your organs.
Posted on 7/6/21 at 8:40 pm to RD Dawg
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Dude just STFU and you have no idea about my background or "most people around me" I was a HS and College athlete and stayed active almost entire adult life
Clearly, since active people and athletes commonly are 30%+ body fat.
Newsflash, high school was fricking 40 years ago.
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I know all about BMI and how deceptive they can be
Deceptive how? Maybe if you spent the last 40 years since you left hs lifting, but you didn't. In your case it's accurate as frick.
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even though I stated earlier that I hated gyms,
Clearly
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I've spent countless hours in them.
Doubtful, but maybe you should have spent more time learning to cook.
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Exactly and have no idea about my family genetics or how serious my procedure was and health leading up to the procedure
Genetics have frick to do with being 30% bodyfat in your late 30s.
Your lack of self perception is astonishing. Absolutely floored by your reaction. Guess that's typical though of the take a pill solution crowd
Newsflash, you has a blockage because you spent the better part of your 50s 75lbs over weight. Not because you quit taking blood pressure pills for a month.
Posted on 7/6/21 at 8:43 pm to Oates Mustache
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You're a dick
Na, Mingo isn't really a dick. He is a good dude just tells the truth and people can't handle it. OP is being a bitch.
We have our disagreements on things but anyone that puts their time and energy into coaching rec ball instead dof just bitching is a good dude in my book. That shite takes the patience of a Saint. People that have never done it, don't understand
Posted on 7/6/21 at 8:46 pm to lsu777
Nah, he's a dick. He posted in the TRT thread that I was obsessed with it.
But I digress.
He's right about OP.
Why aren't you in the TRT thread it's hilarious.
He's right about OP.
Why aren't you in the TRT thread it's hilarious.
This post was edited on 7/6/21 at 8:48 pm
Posted on 7/6/21 at 10:13 pm to Oates Mustache
Cause that shite gets old lol.
Posted on 7/6/21 at 10:56 pm to RD Dawg
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Dude just STFU and you have no idea about my background
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Im in late 50's and 6'1 220 lbs (recently lost 30 lbs)...
Per the BMI almost everyone is "obese" I fluctuated between between 205 and 220 most of my adult life and very active (worked out,jogged,hiked) My job changed the last 5 years or so and I took on far more responsibilities along with much more travel.I also had additional knee surgery which pretty much prevented jogging.Sorry,I detest gyms and treadmills.
You're almost 60 and you were pushing well over 30% bmi. Denial is a motherfricker.
This post was edited on 7/6/21 at 11:05 pm
Posted on 7/8/21 at 7:24 am to RD Dawg
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Per the BMI almost everyone is "obese
I love this argument. BMI is stupid in the same way a clock is stupid. Think about it. A clock only has 12 numbers to tell you 24 hours worth of time. Pretty stupid. But the assumption is the person looking at the clock is smart enough to know if it’s AM or PM. BMI is the same. Yeah if you’re The Rock BMI probably doesn’t mean much for you. It requires the person reading their BMI to know if they’re a fat frick or slabbed with muscle. I think you know the answer.
This post was edited on 7/8/21 at 7:51 am
Posted on 7/8/21 at 7:49 am to drunkensailor89
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I love this argument. BMI is stupid in the same way a clock is stupid. Think about it. A clock only has 12 numbers to tell you 24 hours worth of time. Pretty stupid. But the assumption is the person looking at the clock is smart enough to know if it’s AM or PM. BMI is the same. Yeah if you’re the rock BMO probably doesn’t mean much for you. It requires the person reading their BMI to know if they’re a fat frick or slabbed with muscle. I think you know the answer.
exactly.
something like 8% of adults in the US perform resistance training on a regular basis. Less than half of that is training with any intent to build strength and muscle
Ole boy is close to 60 and brought up the....i was a high school athlete arguement. Thats always the best one, especially when you are approaching your 40th reunion
yea im sure the weight lifting you did in 1981 are sure goign to help you. Hell most high schools didnt even have weight lifting programs back then, like 90% didnt :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Posted on 7/8/21 at 8:58 am to lsu777
The OP survived an heart attack to only get killed in this thread!
Of course he did it to himself.
Of course he did it to himself.
Posted on 7/8/21 at 9:16 am to lsu777
quote:And this:
Ole boy is close to 60 and brought up the....i was a high school athlete arguement.
quote:Op hit all the fatty greatest hits. Most people severely overestimate their activity level. Obviously I don't know for sure but it's extremely unlikely that he would be able to reach a 34% bmi whilst maintaining a "very active" lifestyle.
very active (worked out,jogged,hiked)
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