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Sports type massage therapy or dry needling?

Posted on 2/26/21 at 10:04 am
Posted by madamsquirrel
The big somewhere out there
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 10:04 am
Has anyone had positive results with these two methods? Talk of back pain (muscular) this morning got me to thinking that these two have helped my husband and I way more than pills or physical therapy ever did. I was just curious what others experiences were.
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 2/26/21 at 10:07 am to
i had been having terrible back and neck pain and stiffness for months. I went to a massage therapist 2 times over the last 3 weeks and it is gone. I had been going to a chiropractor but they were never able to resolve it.
Posted by Festus
With Skillet
Member since Nov 2009
86128 posts
Posted on 2/26/21 at 10:08 am to
I did dry needling for upper back/shoulder problems. I was convinced I would need surgery. Doctor told me to try this first.

It's painful, don't believe the articles that say it's not. And it took 6 weeks of doing it 3 times a week. I would do regular therapy, then dry needling for as long as I could stand the pain. But each time I did it, I could literally feel the muscles unraveling being tensed up for years.

When I was done, I felt like a new person. I have ZERO pain in my neck and right shoulder. I highly recommend.
Posted by GeauxTigahs92
Member since Sep 2019
503 posts
Posted on 2/26/21 at 10:10 am to
Physical therapists are certified in dry needling so you can go to a physical therapist that is certified and get PT and dry needling all in the same place. I'm a PT that is certified and I get great results with dry needling. Massage is also another option that can help. I do a few minutes of soft tissue work with my patients but do not have to time to do more than that with each so a professional massage would be more effective.
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
156604 posts
Posted on 2/26/21 at 10:13 am to
quote:

Has anyone had positive results with these two methods?

I had dry needling done on my groin a couple years ago, and it didn't do shite. I am convinced it doesn't really work.

The doc/PT that did it was a friend of mine, and he explained it to me and it seemed legit and seemed like it would/should work. But man we did that for several weeks and it literally just didn't do anything for me.

And it hurts, but it's not painful, if that makes sense. It's more of an uncomfortable feeling than actual pain.
Posted by Gings5
Member since Jul 2016
11654 posts
Posted on 2/26/21 at 10:23 am to
You in Baton Rouge?
Posted by Andychapman13
Member since Jun 2016
2728 posts
Posted on 2/26/21 at 10:26 am to
I think dry needling is like a lot of things in that the people who are really good at it can work wonders with it and the people who suck at it make it painful and it doesn’t help at all.
I’m very fortunate to have a father-in-law who basically brought dry needling to the south and has done it all LSU athletes for the past 25 years. He’s pretty incredible at what he does. He gets rid of my wife’s migraines by needling her neck, he keeps me training (an ultra runner) by working various parts of my lower legs, and what he’s done for LSU athletes over the years is nothing short of a miracle. shite, Spencer Ware should’ve missed almost all of 2011 and only missed one game bc my father in law stayed needling a hammy strain.
I’ve had others do it to me though and it was painful and lead to no relief. So again, its all about who does it to you!
This post was edited on 2/26/21 at 10:28 am
Posted by GeauxTigahs92
Member since Sep 2019
503 posts
Posted on 2/26/21 at 11:05 am to
Nah. I'm in Houma.
Posted by Athos
Member since Sep 2016
11878 posts
Posted on 2/26/21 at 11:17 am to
The actual evidence for dry needling is mostly nonexistent and not much different than sham Tx. I never bought into it during my PT education.
Posted by Andychapman13
Member since Jun 2016
2728 posts
Posted on 2/26/21 at 11:35 am to
quote:

The actual evidence for dry needling is mostly nonexistent and not much different than sham Tx. I never bought into it during my PT education.

What sport do you currently participate in and have to had needling to treat a specific injury for that sport?
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 2/26/21 at 11:49 am to
In my experience, if you're having muscular pain then a combination of massage therapy and dry needling, usually managed by a physical therapist, works wonders. A physical therapist should also find any muscular imbalances and weaknesses that could be contributing to said pain, and assign you some basic exercises to help strengthen things up to prevent that pain from coming back.


I can't speak to the science around dry needling, but I can speak from personal experience. Feeling that muscle tightening and and then relaxing, and seeing pain relief and increased range of motion immediately, it's great. I have a slight aversion to needles but I still will be the first in mind to get dry needles when I have minor strains and pulls from workouts.

I think it might depend on how someone is using the dry needling. I don't think it is a cure all or fixes anything in and of itself, but it is a tool to loosen things up so that the therapist can dig deeper.
This post was edited on 2/26/21 at 1:05 pm
Posted by Festus
With Skillet
Member since Nov 2009
86128 posts
Posted on 2/26/21 at 12:12 pm to
Mine was done by a PT, and in conjunction with normal PT.

When the needle was put into the right spot, it would literally start shaking. I can't tell you how many needles she bent doing this. And it hurt like hell when she hit the right spot. But it felt like the muscle was unwinding.
Posted by Andychapman13
Member since Jun 2016
2728 posts
Posted on 2/26/21 at 12:26 pm to
quote:

When the needle was put into the right spot, it would literally start shaking. I can't tell you how many needles she bent doing this. And it hurt like hell when she hit the right spot. But it felt like the muscle was unwinding.

The good PTs(at dry needling) will hit a series of muscles and needle entry points that kind of release a chain of muscles that work together. The science behind it though is basically that there’s a trigger point in the head of the muscle that releases the swelling/restriction in the belly of that muscle.
Posted by madamsquirrel
The big somewhere out there
Member since Jul 2009
56258 posts
Posted on 2/26/21 at 12:37 pm to
My husband had the same experience as yall Fes and Logz. Hearing the others experience I am glad he got a good one.
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