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re: Pen and Paper Strength App
Posted on 4/9/25 at 11:18 am to GeauxLSU1989
Posted on 4/9/25 at 11:18 am to GeauxLSU1989
Finishing up Pool Season II this week. This was my first Pen and Paper program and it was very challenging, but rewarding - noticeable strength and size gains.
From reading this thread I think this falls in the “intermediate” category in terms of difficulty but if you are someone like me who hasn’t done intense deadlift sessions in a while - it will crush you.
Like I said in an earlier post I got heavy fatigue towards the end of some sessions - like really struggling to finish.
Thinking of trying garlic milkshake next since it’s a 3 day program.
From reading this thread I think this falls in the “intermediate” category in terms of difficulty but if you are someone like me who hasn’t done intense deadlift sessions in a while - it will crush you.
Like I said in an earlier post I got heavy fatigue towards the end of some sessions - like really struggling to finish.
Thinking of trying garlic milkshake next since it’s a 3 day program.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 11:43 am to Samso
quote:I wrapped up Benchuary this morning and plan on starting Garlic Milkshake Monday. In previewing, it looks like each day is 15-18 working sets. Also, there are some high weight %'s planned. Plans ends with deadlift@85%, back squat@97%, bench press@97%, and sumo deadlift@88%. It also has (don't dare make eye contact with anyone while doing them) BB hip thrusts.
Samso
This post was edited on 4/9/25 at 12:11 pm
Posted on 4/9/25 at 12:09 pm to Tiger_n_Texas
I’ve been looking at trying that one next month or going back to Arm Farm for the summertime.
That 97% squat doesn’t sound fun
That 97% squat doesn’t sound fun
Posted on 4/9/25 at 3:11 pm to Tiger_n_Texas
quote:
I wrapped up Benchuary this morning and plan on starting Garlic Milkshake Monday. In previewing, it looks like each day is 15-18 working sets. Also, there are some high weight %'s planned. Plans ends with deadlift@85%, back squat@97%, bench press@97%, and sumo deadlift@88%. It also has (don't dare make eye contact with anyone while doing them) BB hip thrusts
I saw the BB hip thrusts as well. I was thinking of subbing with the hip thrusts machine at my gym.
Posted on 4/10/25 at 2:32 pm to Samso
Finished PS1 last week and started PS2 this week. I do remember the Deadlift days on PS2 being pretty intense, then I got to it and remembered it puts both regular and snatch grip on the same day which is brutal. Bumped my maxes up for this plan for the first time in months.
180 lbs:
Bench-285
Dead-400
Been stuck on 280 and 390 for awhile but felt strong my last 2 programs so went up and so far so good. I sub leg press for squats so not sure of a squat max
180 lbs:
Bench-285
Dead-400
Been stuck on 280 and 390 for awhile but felt strong my last 2 programs so went up and so far so good. I sub leg press for squats so not sure of a squat max
Posted on 4/11/25 at 1:44 pm to Tiger_n_Texas
I needed a filler workout to finish out the week. Since it's getting close to Easter, I ran JACKED Bunny. I've been focusing on bench since the beginning of February and neglected squat and deadlifts. It made today's workout LONG. I had to leave the gym before the cardio SS due to time; completed cardio at home.
SS1
Bench Press 4x10 (60-65%)
DB Farmers Walk 4x40yds
Back Squat 5x5 (70-80%)
SS2
Pull-Ups 4x2-5
Snatch Grip Deadlift 4x7 (50-55%)
SS3
Standing BB OHP 4x8
DB Overhead Farmers Walk 4x40yds
Cardio (SS)
Bench Dips 4xAMRAP
BB Burl 4x20
SS1
Bench Press 4x10 (60-65%)
DB Farmers Walk 4x40yds
Back Squat 5x5 (70-80%)
SS2
Pull-Ups 4x2-5
Snatch Grip Deadlift 4x7 (50-55%)
SS3
Standing BB OHP 4x8
DB Overhead Farmers Walk 4x40yds
Cardio (SS)
Bench Dips 4xAMRAP
BB Burl 4x20
Posted on 4/24/25 at 9:42 am to Tiger_n_Texas
Ran 70s Big late 2024. That was a whale, if you're into hypertrophy and a shitload of volume on compound movements.
Finished Fillin' Out The Hoodie Pt 2 in early April. The leg work is only on Wednesdays and is 5 sets of squats - that's it, so I decided to run Squatober 2024 directly after. Today is day 10, and I feel pretty good outside of a biting right hip.
Not sure what I want to run after, looking for recommendations. Pool Season 2 is at the top of my list, for obvious reasons.
Finished Fillin' Out The Hoodie Pt 2 in early April. The leg work is only on Wednesdays and is 5 sets of squats - that's it, so I decided to run Squatober 2024 directly after. Today is day 10, and I feel pretty good outside of a biting right hip.
Not sure what I want to run after, looking for recommendations. Pool Season 2 is at the top of my list, for obvious reasons.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 6:26 pm to salt of the girth
Did the Bench Reps correct for the first time ever on Pool Season W4D2, every other time I have ran it I have mixed up the weights and reps. With that said, great lift today and the ability to do dips is intoxicating.
This post was edited on 4/24/25 at 6:27 pm
Posted on 4/25/25 at 9:02 am to Tiger_n_Texas
Wrapped up the first 2 weeks of Garlic Milkshake. So far all 6 days have been right at 75-90 min for 15-18 working sets; that includes warm-up stretching/light sets, setup, workout, and clean-up. I was a little unsure about moving down to a 3 day/week plan, but this one packs more of a punch than I anticipated. All days have the same general layout; primary lift, secondary lift, 2 lift SS, then 3/4 lift SS. The 'Strong Blend' portion of the workout is arm/shoulder focused and (most days) leaves an insane pump.
There's a few of the SS combinations that I still need to workout the correct weights on. An example would be the pull-ups and high rep DB RDL combination. I've heard/read several times that if you aren't using straps on RDLs, then you're not going heavy enough; grip strength shouldn't be the limiting factor on them. Well going that heavy on RDLs leaves my grip and forearm dead. Even after the rest period, the next set of pull-ups afterwards was a struggle (and each subsequent set just got worse). I need to find the right balance where I can hit the pull-up reps completely while not decreasing the RDLs to just going thru the motion.
There's a few of the SS combinations that I still need to workout the correct weights on. An example would be the pull-ups and high rep DB RDL combination. I've heard/read several times that if you aren't using straps on RDLs, then you're not going heavy enough; grip strength shouldn't be the limiting factor on them. Well going that heavy on RDLs leaves my grip and forearm dead. Even after the rest period, the next set of pull-ups afterwards was a struggle (and each subsequent set just got worse). I need to find the right balance where I can hit the pull-up reps completely while not decreasing the RDLs to just going thru the motion.
Posted on 4/26/25 at 11:06 am to Tiger_n_Texas
Thinking about doing another 5 day/week program for May because ill be on a turnaround making it easy to get into an after work routine. Absolutely loved Dr jacked and Return of Dr Jacked which were both 5 days. Looking at Elbow Meat and Jacked Up Joker if anybody has ran these
Elbow Meat looks fairly intense, arms everyday along with bench 3x a week and alot of grip work. Jacked up Joker may be a better choice for summer because it has alot of high volume high rep stuff. I just dont like how it dosent have deads.
Elbow Meat looks fairly intense, arms everyday along with bench 3x a week and alot of grip work. Jacked up Joker may be a better choice for summer because it has alot of high volume high rep stuff. I just dont like how it dosent have deads.
Posted on 4/26/25 at 11:08 am to Tiger_n_Texas
I’m in week 2 of garlic milkshake (this is my second p&p program). So far I would say I prefer PS2 to this one. I suck at Bulgarian splits and some of the supersets require too much logistics to execute efficiently - especially if you work out in a busy gym.
But will definitely keep going. Maybe my attitude will change as I get used to the exercises.
But will definitely keep going. Maybe my attitude will change as I get used to the exercises.
Posted on 4/27/25 at 9:52 am to Samso
I'd say days 6, 12, 18, and 24 are the worst as far as SS setup. The BB hip thrusts/chest supported rows combination followed by Arnold press/skullcrushers/concentration curls take the most setup. Even then, it's not horrible to switch between them; just adjust the bench from flat to seated to angled as needed.
The rest of the SS combinations typically just use a bench or pully tower and DB/BB/EZ bar.
The rest of the SS combinations typically just use a bench or pully tower and DB/BB/EZ bar.
Posted on 4/27/25 at 12:24 pm to Tiger_n_Texas
Looks like he is running a deal today and Hypertrophy is only $20.
I think I'm gonna pick it up. I'm finishing up PS2 again this week. Any pros/cons for this plan?
I think I'm gonna pick it up. I'm finishing up PS2 again this week. Any pros/cons for this plan?
Posted on 5/1/25 at 1:55 pm to Ruckingisthewaytogo
Currently running Oak Tree Remastered and just finished Day 13. Have been running it 3x or 4x a week and should wrap up in 2 weeks. Debating if I want to run Strongville or Periodic Table of Thickness next. Little bit of fomo because we are expecting later this summer don't think I'll have as much time initially to run those so wanted to do them at least once.
Any new-ish parents here? Any suggestions of workouts I can do with some flexibility or can be pretty quick like 45 minutes? One of the reasons I doing Oak Tree now to get a feel for it.
Any new-ish parents here? Any suggestions of workouts I can do with some flexibility or can be pretty quick like 45 minutes? One of the reasons I doing Oak Tree now to get a feel for it.
Posted on 5/1/25 at 4:02 pm to Ruckingisthewaytogo
My kids are 1 and 3. I started working out at lunch at work vs. after work. If I’m pressed for time I just cut back a sets on the non compound lifts. I don’t always get in all the workouts in a week. Sometimes it takes me 5-6 weeks to get thru a 4 week program.
Posted on 5/1/25 at 8:16 pm to JL
Last day of PS2 in the morning. I won’t miss those Tuesdays with the heavy deadlift followed by snatch deads-chin up superset lol.
Decided to roll with Jacked Up Joker starting Monday. I’ll be on turnaround- nights most of May so I’ll be pretty sleep deprived and this one dosent have deads and the workouts don’t seem long so I think it’s a good choice.
Decided to roll with Jacked Up Joker starting Monday. I’ll be on turnaround- nights most of May so I’ll be pretty sleep deprived and this one dosent have deads and the workouts don’t seem long so I think it’s a good choice.
Posted on 5/2/25 at 8:55 am to Ruckingisthewaytogo
quote:
Currently running Oak Tree Remastered and just finished Day 13. Have been running it 3x or 4x a week and should wrap up in 2 weeks. Debating if I want to run Strongville or Periodic Table of Thickness next. Little bit of fomo because we are expecting later this summer don't think I'll have as much time initially to run those so wanted to do them at least once.
both are awesome, strongville hammers the main lifts and lots of arms, its one of my favorites but it is fatiguing.
quote:
Any new-ish parents here? Any suggestions of workouts I can do with some flexibility or can be pretty quick like 45 minutes? One of the reasons I doing Oak Tree now to get a feel for it.
most of them, cut out the longer warm up, cut out the cardio, cut back to 2 sets on the non main lifts.
Posted on 5/2/25 at 2:14 pm to lsu777
On day 11 of 70s Big, and it's been a beast.
I've done a few other PPSA workouts, and this is the first one that I have to try and stick pretty close weight percentages.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 10:14 am to biggles1883
Update: I am on day 22 of 36 for the Sport Strength program. It has felt awesome incorporating Cleans and snatches back into my routine after running the traditional PPSA programs for 6-7 years. I was worried due to CNS fatigue of these lifts upfront and slightly lower volume on the big main compounds that I would suffer strength or size loss but that has not happened at all.
Two things I have noticed that have stood out already: My power has increased greatly in a short amount of time on this program. I noticed this mainly from my golf swing, I am crushing the driver and feel much more powerful and just feel overall more athletic. I also feel 10x better than I did compared to Day 1 in the conditioning, (had been a long time since I had done any sprinting)
Secondly, I forgot how doing cleans and snatches blow up my upper back/traps. My traps are noticeably more full in just a few weeks.
So far have enjoyed it greatly and recommend for anyone trying to add explosive power lifts and true conditioning back into their routine. Also has some varied lifts you typically do not get in other PPSA programs (DB Lateral lunges, BB complexes, BB RFESS, etc)
Two things I have noticed that have stood out already: My power has increased greatly in a short amount of time on this program. I noticed this mainly from my golf swing, I am crushing the driver and feel much more powerful and just feel overall more athletic. I also feel 10x better than I did compared to Day 1 in the conditioning, (had been a long time since I had done any sprinting)
Secondly, I forgot how doing cleans and snatches blow up my upper back/traps. My traps are noticeably more full in just a few weeks.
So far have enjoyed it greatly and recommend for anyone trying to add explosive power lifts and true conditioning back into their routine. Also has some varied lifts you typically do not get in other PPSA programs (DB Lateral lunges, BB complexes, BB RFESS, etc)
Posted on 5/13/25 at 2:37 pm to lsu777
@LSU Appreciate it.
Wrapping up Oak Tree Remastered this week. Prob running Strongville starting next week unless there's a program party?
Wrapping up Oak Tree Remastered this week. Prob running Strongville starting next week unless there's a program party?
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