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McLemore
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re: Official Running Log/Marathon Training Thread
Haha. It ain't a terrible place. I prefer Montana, but it's a fer piece away for family to come see us. High today is 86. Can't complain.


Salmon
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I’ll sign up when I get a new Garmin

I don’t think my old Garmin does all of that.

Might have to wait till next month since I bought too many new toys on Prime Day already...


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I’m headed to East Texas for family church camp.

I’m going to exchange 105 degrees with 85% humidity for 95 degrees and 100% humidity.


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McLemore
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KG6, I just read your OT post re ironman (men). Awesome!

We are pretty much identical in size. I'm a hair under 6', 173-175#. You mentioned wanting to be 165 for marathon distance. Are you working on that or happy w 175?

I was 163-165 during chemo last year and wanted to stay that way, but obviously sans the chemo.

However, that seems to require another level for me--cutting out the Halo Top w nuts and chocolate, and totally eliminating empty calories like alcohol. My frame can carry 175 nicely, but without a little toning effort, there's still a semblance of love handles at that weight.

I haven't been a healthy 165 since college, and I wasn't a very avid runner then, so I don't know the difference the 10lbs make w distance running.

In the fall, I'm going to start training for a half IM.

I'll do a couple shorter tris first, as I've literally never done one. I'm a decent swimmer and can go the distance on the bike--i just don't do either with any consistency and have never strung them together. I find pool swimming tedious, especially indoors w chlorine. I need to find some motivation. I bought a waterproof MP3 player/earbud system. We'll see.

My brother (7 years younger than I, at 36) is doing the Louisville full. He did well in the Chattanooga half in May (6th in his age group). I'm going to get him to join the team td.com Strava group.


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I have a very skinny frame. According to my scale, which I admit is likely not accurate, I'm at 17.5% BF. I should probably be at around 155-160 lb and 10% BF if I wanted to reach my potential for endurance sports. My first year in triathlon, I got down to 162. Took a break that fall and have had a hard time getting back below 170. Hover around 175 unless I work at it.

Took another break after my IM in April. Was just burnt out on training. Kept eating the same way though and got up to 180 with a quickness. So I'm focusing on weight loss for now. If I can get down into the 150s by the fall, I'll do it, but I know that's not reasonable. Shooting for low 160s. Too hot to start really running, so I'm hitting the gym and trying the Keto thing for a while. Figure it fits my situation. I realize it's a difficult diet to sustain, but I just need 2 months. When I fall off the wagon, I'll be training again. And hopefully that high level of work allows me to maintain with a typical diet.

In terms of weight and performance, there is a rule of thumb that every pound lost is 2 seconds off your pace. So drop 20 lbs and go from a 9 min per mile to a 8:20 min per mile just due to weight loss. I'd much rather not have to carry an extra 20 lbs around for 26 miles.


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In terms of weight and performance, there is a rule of thumb that every pound lost is 2 seconds off your pace. So drop 20 lbs and go from a 9 min per mile to a 8:20 min per mile just due to weight loss. I'd much rather not have to carry an extra 20 lbs around for 26 miles.


I’m trying to let this be my inspiration for weight loss. I’m 5’7 168 pounds. Would love to get down to 148.


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McLemore
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Good info. I've been doing some form of keto for awhile and I'll never go back. Despite certain accusations on here, I'm not religious or dogmatic about it. It just fits me well, and the science--which I continue learning daily--makes sense to me.

More to follow


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Looks like my Garmin GPS watch just bit the dust. Won't power up or nothing. What do the fine folks of this board use for mileage tracking? I've always just used a simple Garmin GPS watch. I don't bother linking it to Strava or anything. I just really need to know how far I've run, and average pace and total time.


Salmon
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My old Garmin won’t hold a charge more than a day now. I doubt it would hold a charge for a full marathon.

I’ll be buying a new one soon. I’ll probably just get the 235.

Then I’ll be able join all the cool kids on Strava.
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I’ll be buying a new one soon. I’ll probably just get the 235


Look at the vivoactive 3 Music.

235 is great and still sold but EOL.

VA3 is less than a year old and much more feature rich.

I have a 230 I’ll hold on to till it dies.

Also, for those with Garmin issues call them. They are darn good at replacing stuff and why I will go back to them for repeat business.
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Then I’ll be able join all the cool kids on Strava


It turns into an addiction. My knee has probably seen it's last days of running so I switched to cycling and I'll be damned if I'm not going to take every KOM in the city.


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Cdawg
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Glad I've found this thread. I'm nto training for any specific but always training.


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I've heard of the "Keto Flu" and don't think I have that since it's only during activity, but at the end of the run, it felt like that.

I usually just eat whatever because I stay active but over the last 7 days I thought I'd try the Keto thing on a whim. I am all out of whack starting yesterday. Funny taste in my mouth and super tired but can only sleep in 2 bursts. I'm not sure how long I'll keep going but thought it would be interesting to see what happens.

So back to the training thread.

Mon:Plyometric training. lots of jumping and with upper body and core mixed in.
tues: track work
Wed: more plyometric work
Thurs: parking garages/hillwork
Fri: 1hr tempo

Sat or Sun: long run which varies.

I love the plyometric work. I feel that's where I build a lot for strength and endurance.


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lsucm10
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I'm in. I haven't run a marathon since Jan 2016. Since then the miles have been few and far between. I gained a lot of weight in that time frame.
Started training last week and going low carb diet until the miles start to add up enough for it to matter.

Marathon: Walt Disney World Marathon 1/13/19. Since I am nearly starting from zero, my marathon goal is sub 4 hours.

For Disney races you need to submit a proof of time race for coral placement, if not your in the back. Must submit by October 9 or 10th. I need races that are 10 milers, or a half. Next one up is a 10 mile night time race in August and my second attempt to improve it Oct 7.

Hope to get caught up in this thread. Best of luck to everyone.

Hey OP, how about keeping a list of usernames and goal races they have?


Salmon
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Hey OP, how about keeping a list of usernames and goal races they have?


Not a bad idea.

Will add when I get back in the office.


Salmon
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I updated OP to add all of our races

Should I add a column for goal times and then add our finish times after the race to see if we met our goals?



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TigeRoots
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Got out and ran 4.5 miles today around noon at a 9:15 pace. Heat was brutal today of course and direct sunlight was killer. I thought I would get some cloud cover and I did up until mile 3, then the sun ate me up. I will start Hal Higdon's 12 week program on 8/6, so just trying to get some decent mileage in until then. Will incorporate a speed workout for the first time this week also.

I'll throw out some quick vital stats, since I plan to follow the thread and contribute. 37 y/o, 5' 7" on a good day, weighed 152 this am. As the pic may indicate below, I feel alot heavier than 152 when running (and also have a partially torn left quad). I've always been "top heavy", even though I've always trained legs as much as upper. I've dropped about 10-12 lbs in the last couple of months since I've been running and cutting back on the weights. I feel like I need to be lighter. I'm feeling like I'm carrying too much upper body mass.

What I'm struggling with is do I drop the weights completely? I've trimmed down to only doing compound movements for the most part: barbell bench, military presses, deads, squats, straight leg deads, calf work and doing core exercises everyday when I weight train (2-3 x per week, upper and lower on separate days). I'm at a cross roads because I want all of my training and focus to be on improving my run performance, but on the other hand, I'd like to at least retain some upper body muscle.

Diet stays clean, lean meats, vegetables, low carb/grains.

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lsucm10
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quote:

Right now, I'm slowly bumping my weekly mileage while trying to lose my last 5-10 pounds. I'm a bigger runner (6'5" and 223 at the moment). Trying to get below 220 (and ideally closer to 215) before I really start hammering away on the mileage. I think that I'm at about 13.5% BF right now. Losing a few more pounds will help with speed and reduce cumulative impact over the course of the training/race cycle.


We are very similar. A few years ago I was 255 and hit as low as 205. I’m also 6’-5”. When my wife got pregnant with our second child I put running on hold and here we are about to hit his first birthday. Didn’t mean to take that much time off but life happens. 210-215 was a nice weight to run at and that’s where I hope to be before January. The little Rock Marathon is brutal I heard with the hills. Good luck!

OP: In a thread on a Disney board I have a running section and for races I use the following format.

Month
Day - username - race name w/ distance (goal time / result)

Not saying it’s the best way, but if your looking for ideas.


McLemore
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ad hoc run --was supposed to be a long slow but friend came in town last minute, so I cut it short and found a couple hills.

i messed up my watch after 5k and don't feel like adding everything up (calculating ave pace I mean) for just an extra mile.

first 3.14 miles:
8:29/mi
275ft gain

additional mile:
8:09/mi
46ft gain

Again, my immediate race is :

Aug 4 - McLemore - SnowBowl 15K (no clue re: goal -- i haven't run straight up for 4.5 miles in some time, so just don't get booted from course; _________)

I'd like to find an October marathon. Baby due Nov 1, so....

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