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re: Official Running Log/Marathon Training Thread
Posted on 10/19/20 at 6:36 am to Hu_Flung_Pu
Posted on 10/19/20 at 6:36 am to Hu_Flung_Pu
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Need help. New runner. Got some hoka bondi 7 as I want max cushion so my body doesn’t get tired so I can still lift heavy. My issue is my calves get SUPER pumped and hurt. I’m not running out of breathe and my body from knee up doesn’t hurt anymore since getting the new shoes. Is it just lack of durability and just need to train it?
Hoka’s are usually 4 to 5mm drop. If you were running in 10mm drop shoes before and just switched to Hoka, you may just still be adapting to the lower drop.
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Posted on 10/19/20 at 8:15 am to Cdawg
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Saturday made up for last weekend and ran 14.2. Same thing, I didn’t have any gels or water except it was mid 60’s. I felt fine and ran easy but I really needed some water on that. Im pretty sure that was my first run over 8 since March.
Nutrition on long runs varies for me, sometimes I do, sometime I don't. I slammed a Maurten + caffeine gel at the hour mark on my 12 miler Saturday am. Looks like the heat is back this week.
Posted on 10/19/20 at 10:45 am to TigeRoots
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Maurten + caffeine gel
Man, I can only use that on special occasions or I feel a serious bonk coming on. That stuff is rocket fuel to me.
Posted on 10/19/20 at 11:05 am to Cdawg
Anything over an hour and I really like to have some water along the way, but I don’t find that I need to eat if I am running slowly and keeping my HR down.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 11:51 am to rds dc
Heading down to Bandera, TX in a couple of days for the Cactus Rose 100. Weather looks to be on the warm side but shouldn't be an issue since I spent much of my time running in mid-day heat this summer. I'm feeling pretty good about my training and health, esp feeling rested after taking much of the last two weeks off. I haven't run this much in a few years and thought a break might be of more benefit than a traditional taper. I'm doing 4 runs for about 10 miles total this week, so I don't totally forget how to run.
My last long run was 34 miles but I missed my peak mileage weeks of 100 miles. I developed an issue with my left upper thigh (still don't know what it was) that was painful enough that I couldn't run on some days. I was able to manage that by taking days off during the week. That helped enough that I was still able to mostly get my back-to-back long runs in with only having to cut a couple of 2nd day runs short. It hasn't bothered me in the last month, so I'm guessing it's healed
I'm feeling pretty good about a sub 24hr finish time on this course. However, I'm not going to push for that and will run the 1st 25 mile loop totally on feel with no watch. I plan to run the 1st half on mostly just Tailwind and will then mix in some gels & PB&J during the 2nd half, as needed.
My last long run was 34 miles but I missed my peak mileage weeks of 100 miles. I developed an issue with my left upper thigh (still don't know what it was) that was painful enough that I couldn't run on some days. I was able to manage that by taking days off during the week. That helped enough that I was still able to mostly get my back-to-back long runs in with only having to cut a couple of 2nd day runs short. It hasn't bothered me in the last month, so I'm guessing it's healed
I'm feeling pretty good about a sub 24hr finish time on this course. However, I'm not going to push for that and will run the 1st 25 mile loop totally on feel with no watch. I plan to run the 1st half on mostly just Tailwind and will then mix in some gels & PB&J during the 2nd half, as needed.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 6:49 pm to rds dc
Did anybody notice that Strava turned off Flybys?
Posted on 10/20/20 at 7:17 pm to Athanatos
Yep. They’re gonna strip the free version down to bare bones.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 7:21 pm to Athanatos
Yea I logged out and deleted the app. One less thing to worry about!
Posted on 10/21/20 at 6:12 am to rds dc
Good luck. That sounds awesome.
10k on the trail yesterday evening. Felt great running.
10k on the trail yesterday evening. Felt great running.
Posted on 10/21/20 at 6:14 am to tke_swamprat
Strava really has been fricking up. They constantly put in features no one is asking for while neglecting feature requests regarding user safety and benefits.
Overall though, removing fly by is a good move, but a better move would have been the ability to toggle it on/off. Most of fly by usage feels like it was in the spirit of stalking.
Workout today: 3 up progression steady state pace to 5k for 6ish 5 down 14 total.
Splits: 540 537 534 526 519 516
PSA, progression is only a workout if you “progress” through specific tempo paces. Running easy to slightly less easy is not a progression. Happy track day. The weather sucks, it’s hot, but we are alive!
Overall though, removing fly by is a good move, but a better move would have been the ability to toggle it on/off. Most of fly by usage feels like it was in the spirit of stalking.
Workout today: 3 up progression steady state pace to 5k for 6ish 5 down 14 total.
Splits: 540 537 534 526 519 516
PSA, progression is only a workout if you “progress” through specific tempo paces. Running easy to slightly less easy is not a progression. Happy track day. The weather sucks, it’s hot, but we are alive!
Posted on 10/21/20 at 8:35 am to Hu_Flung_Pu
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Need help. New runner. Got some hoka bondi 7 as I want max cushion so my body doesn’t get tired so I can still lift heavy. My issue is my calves get SUPER pumped and hurt. I’m not running out of breathe and my body from knee up doesn’t hurt anymore since getting the new shoes. Is it just lack of durability and just need to train it?
I started running to lose weight, and as a heavier guy, the bondi’s were the first pair of running shoes I got as the insane cushioning sounded perfect.
IMO, and I’ve read similar comments from others, they are just too cushioned and mushy to the point of being uncomfortable and/or a detriment.
My recommendation is to start with one of the bouncier max cushioned shoes- Nike infinity run or saucony triumph. You could also try the new balance 1080v10, although the foam isn’t quite as bouncy as the others. Either of those are far superior to the bondi. I’d recommend getting some triumph 17s on clearance, as they recently released the 18s. If you’re stuck on Hoka, the Cliftons are better than the bondi.
This post was edited on 10/21/20 at 8:48 am
Posted on 10/21/20 at 11:46 am to 632627
Finally getting out of my slump. 
Posted on 10/23/20 at 9:25 am to LSU Patrick
Just joining this thread for the first time.
Currently training for the Louisiana Half Marathon. Started September 12 where I ran 4 miles at an 11:38 pace which was the longest I had ever ran before.
Following the Nike Run Club training program which usually has a speed interval or tempo run during the week and then a long run on the weekends. Last weekend I ran 7 miles at a 10'08" pace. Two weeks before that was 6 miles at 10'33" pace. Certainly showing major improvement but it was definitely gorgeous weather for those two runs.
This weekend I have 7.5 miles but not expecting good running weather.
I have been doing my long runs around the LSU lakes which I have greatly enjoyed. Anybody else have some long distance running spots in the capital area.
Currently training for the Louisiana Half Marathon. Started September 12 where I ran 4 miles at an 11:38 pace which was the longest I had ever ran before.
Following the Nike Run Club training program which usually has a speed interval or tempo run during the week and then a long run on the weekends. Last weekend I ran 7 miles at a 10'08" pace. Two weeks before that was 6 miles at 10'33" pace. Certainly showing major improvement but it was definitely gorgeous weather for those two runs.
This weekend I have 7.5 miles but not expecting good running weather.
I have been doing my long runs around the LSU lakes which I have greatly enjoyed. Anybody else have some long distance running spots in the capital area.
Posted on 10/23/20 at 9:55 am to Breric
I like the lakes. When my runs got longer I would start at the lakes and then take the levee downtown. I believe it was about 10 miles.
Posted on 10/23/20 at 10:40 am to Breric
Congrats!! And welcome!
Be careful not to try to make every run a PR. Long runs should be 60 or so seconds slower pace per mile than your planned race pace.
Good luck with the training
Be careful not to try to make every run a PR. Long runs should be 60 or so seconds slower pace per mile than your planned race pace.
Good luck with the training
Posted on 10/23/20 at 12:14 pm to BurtReynoldsMustache
Burt how is the fit on the AZ Alpha Next%?
Posted on 10/23/20 at 1:16 pm to quail man
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Long runs should be 60 or so seconds slower pace per mile than your planned race pace.
I’m more like 2 minutes+
Posted on 10/23/20 at 1:48 pm to Athanatos
Yeah I’m at 2 minutes or so for anything longer than race distance
Posted on 10/23/20 at 4:40 pm to hogbody
True to size if you like a snug fit for a racer. Where’d you find a pair? Those things are rare.
As for the long run discussion, depends on if you are incorporating a workout or not into the run. A lot of good race simulation pace work can be done on your long runs.
As for the long run discussion, depends on if you are incorporating a workout or not into the run. A lot of good race simulation pace work can be done on your long runs.
Posted on 10/23/20 at 5:25 pm to BurtReynoldsMustache
Supposed to be some available on Nike on 10/29. I feel like a 12 in the 4% fits great but the 12 in the Vaporfly feels a little big. The upper in the AF seems closer to the 4%. Have you worn all 3?
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