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re: My Take On CrossFit People
Posted on 8/18/17 at 10:24 pm to Hu_Flung_Pu
Posted on 8/18/17 at 10:24 pm to Hu_Flung_Pu
Tomorrow at Traceway in Clinton, Sunday at Liberty Park in Flowood.
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Posted on 8/18/17 at 10:27 pm to Gaston
You'll be down the street from my office in Flowood
Posted on 8/18/17 at 11:03 pm to SabiDojo
Go get an MBA. Great way to socialize and get an advanced degree.
Posted on 8/18/17 at 11:47 pm to Paul Allen
Dude I want to
Posted on 8/19/17 at 6:51 am to SabiDojo
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I go to The Club24 in Flowood, MS
I'm right down from you at the Courthouse in Flowood. It's an old school dump, but the people are cool.
Posted on 8/19/17 at 7:06 am to Gorilla Fingers
I heard that was a good gym
Posted on 8/19/17 at 7:51 am to Gorilla Fingers
I used to work out at that Courthouse when I went to high school out on lakeland. That place is one of a kind!
Posted on 8/19/17 at 8:36 am to Gorilla Fingers
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I'm right down from you at the Courthouse in Flowood. It's an old school dump, but the people are cool.
Has a boss swimming pool tho.
Posted on 8/19/17 at 9:14 am to HoustonGumbeauxGuy
I dont mind the crossfit crowd(i know lots of them). I just hate how they are always talking about it and very pushy.
My old neighbor got into it and every time i talked to him he would push it on me and not take no for an answer.
That turned me off. It was like a cultist church crowd that was supposed to recruit 2 new members a month. lol
My old neighbor got into it and every time i talked to him he would push it on me and not take no for an answer.
That turned me off. It was like a cultist church crowd that was supposed to recruit 2 new members a month. lol
Posted on 8/19/17 at 10:23 am to SabiDojo
It's easy to hate on CrossFit because most CrossFiters are very vocal about it, and there are some bad boxes out there that give it a bad name. And watching the CrossFit games makes it look absolutely ridiculous.. but that's not what CrossFit is like for the majority of people. I would bet if most people who hate on CrossFit would take on a WOD or two they would change their opinion.
This post was edited on 8/19/17 at 10:26 am
Posted on 8/19/17 at 10:28 am to Hulkklogan
I just don't like it because it doesn't excel at anything.
Snatch - weightlifters are better
Ball throws or whatever - strongman is better
Deadlift - powerlifters are better
There is no specificity. You also don't train the lift enough to get proficient.
Snatch - weightlifters are better
Ball throws or whatever - strongman is better
Deadlift - powerlifters are better
There is no specificity. You also don't train the lift enough to get proficient.
This post was edited on 8/19/17 at 10:30 am
Posted on 8/19/17 at 10:34 am to Hu_Flung_Pu
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I just don't like it because it doesn't excel at anything.
That's kinda the point of it. You won't be the "best" at any one thing, but you'll be above average to good at almost everything.
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Snatch - weightlifters are better
Ball throws or whatever - strongman is better
Deadlift - powerlifters are better
All of this is true, but again that's the point.
Would you rather have a 700 lb deadlift, but can barely run a 10 min mile without dying? Or not able to snatch anything?
Or have a 500 lb deadlift, can run a sub 6 min mile, and snatch 250-300 lbs?
The whole idea behind CrossFit is no specificity.
Posted on 8/19/17 at 10:50 am to rintintin
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Would you rather have a 700 lb deadlift, but can barely run a 10 min mile without dying? Or not able to snatch anything?
That's on the trainee. You can most definitely do conditioning while getting a 700 lb deadlift. Many weightlifters can deadlift and squat super heavy. Many strongman can do the same. Powerlifting is general strength and after they practice some technique, can get heavier weights at other lifts just by being strong.
I despise the layout of timed WODs because it doesn't ingrain technique but rather being faster. The coaches are usually underqualified due to the low amount of hours to become certified.
I actually don't dislike the idea of CrossFit. It has helped the fitness industry. However, the requirements to coach should be higher and the timed stuff needs to be eliminated. It's just not inherently safe.
There are also other ways to stay conditioned. Running is not the end all be all. Why isn't the prowler the gold standard? Why not farmers carry?
This post was edited on 8/19/17 at 10:52 am
Posted on 8/19/17 at 11:33 am to Hu_Flung_Pu
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That's on the trainee. You can most definitely do conditioning while getting a 700 lb deadlift. Many weightlifters can deadlift and squat super heavy.
Yes, I agree, you can definitely get both, but what's more realistic for the average person? It's going to take alot more time and effort to get a 700+ lb DL and also have good conditioning. I think you'll be hard-pressed to find a handful of guys in your city that have 700+ lb DL's and above average to good conditioning simply because of the time and work it takes to get that strong to begin with.
Go into any CrossFit gym and you'll see a handful of guys that can DL 400-500 lbs but also have excellent Conditioning.
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Many strongman can do the same. Powerlifting is general strength and after they practice some technique, can get heavier weights at other lifts just by being strong.
Again, yes I agree, but you aren't going to see strongman running, or doing handstands and gymnastics. Same with many powerlifters.
Not that they can't, it just takes alot more time because they're already devoting so much time to their lifting.
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despise the layout of timed WODs because it doesn't ingrain technique but rather being faster.
This is all on the gym IMO. I agree though, I still don't like the idea of Olympic lifts for time. Way too dangerous IMO. But again, if you have a smart coach and gym they'll progress people as needed.
Other than that, I really enjoy the time factor. It pushes you much harder IMO. Can it promote bad form? Yes. But again that's on the coach and athlete. Bad form is not exclusive to CF.
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Running is not the end all be all. Why isn't the prowler the gold standard? Why not farmers carry?
Precisely. CF incorporates those other techniques. Again, it's about being above average at everything.
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However, the requirements to coach should be higher and the timed stuff needs to be eliminated. It's just not inherently safe
Again, this is not exclusive to CF. It's true throughout the fitness industry. From my experience though, CF coaches are much more well versed than the average trainer. Just my experience though. They absolutely have shitty ones.
Posted on 8/19/17 at 11:49 am to rintintin
I'll also say I don't exclusively do CF. I lift alot on my own also because of some of the deficiencies I see in CF.
I used to be a big CF hater until I tried it. My strength and conditioning has never been better though since trying it a couple of years ago. It's the push and the competition that makes it for me.
So I'm partial to it because I'm a more experienced lifter. I know how to push but not injure myself (never injured myself doing CF). I do think people should have a general level of fitness before trying it. I always cringe when I see beginners doing some of that shite.
I used to be a big CF hater until I tried it. My strength and conditioning has never been better though since trying it a couple of years ago. It's the push and the competition that makes it for me.
So I'm partial to it because I'm a more experienced lifter. I know how to push but not injure myself (never injured myself doing CF). I do think people should have a general level of fitness before trying it. I always cringe when I see beginners doing some of that shite.
Posted on 8/19/17 at 12:00 pm to rintintin
I appreciate your intelligent responses.
That's my issue in a nutshell. Good is the enemy of great.
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but what's more realistic for the average person?
That's my issue in a nutshell. Good is the enemy of great.
Posted on 8/19/17 at 12:03 pm to rintintin
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I'll also say I don't exclusively do CF. I lift alot on my own also because of some of the deficiencies I see in CF.
That's great! It's similar to any other specific training. For powerlifting, it would be mobility and conditioning. So I added in stuff it is deficient in but don't allow it to dictate my outcomes on other lifts.
Posted on 8/19/17 at 12:23 pm to Hu_Flung_Pu
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I just don't like it because it doesn't excel at anything. Snatch - weightlifters are better Ball throws or whatever - strongman is better Deadlift - powerlifters are better There is no specificity. You also don't train the lift enough to get proficient.
You do realize neither the German Shepherd and Belgian Malinois are the best in any one specific category, yet the police and military use them bc they are top 3 in every category. It's the same token for crossfit.
Posted on 8/19/17 at 12:39 pm to Shepherd88
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German Shepherd and Belgian Malinois are the best in any one specific category,
Dogs are bred not trained. A little different.
What is your point? That CrossFit people are better equipped to pull a log off a person in need? I'd argue a strongman is. Do you want to do a sport? Irregular training ain't gonna make you more proficient. I'm sure the top level people in CrossFit understand this and train the important lifts more often to prepare for the games. You just want to be "fit," which is fine.
Posted on 8/19/17 at 12:42 pm to Hu_Flung_Pu
It's truely the best test of the definition of "fitness" and that can't be argued. Where else will you find someone who can run a 5 minute mile and squat 500lbs?
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