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Looking for a good muscle building supplement
Posted on 1/11/20 at 9:23 am
Posted on 1/11/20 at 9:23 am
42 year old male, healthy, 6’1 185. Trying to pack on muscle. Eating 3000-3200 calories/day, 250-270 grams protein/day. I’ve seen nutrinex sells GH and T boosters. Would these be beneficial?
This post was edited on 1/11/20 at 9:24 am
Posted on 1/11/20 at 9:48 am to TechDawg2007
Generally any OTC stuff is crap. Calorie surplus, high protein intake, hard work sustained over a long period of time.
Proper dosage of creatine, beta-alanine, and L-citrulline malate can help with your workouts feeling better and squeezing out an extra rep or two and can help you in the long term, but by no means are they necessary.
Proper dosage of creatine, beta-alanine, and L-citrulline malate can help with your workouts feeling better and squeezing out an extra rep or two and can help you in the long term, but by no means are they necessary.
Posted on 1/11/20 at 9:58 am to TechDawg2007
Lift heavy weight?? Eat protein??
Posted on 1/11/20 at 10:01 am to TechDawg2007
Eat more protein, lift more weight. Proper dieting and programming are always #1. If you’re looking for pharma, I can’t help with that.
Posted on 1/11/20 at 10:48 am to TechDawg2007
OTC test boosters are snake. Be patient and you’ll get bigger eating 3000+/day.
Posted on 1/11/20 at 12:23 pm to TechDawg2007
Take it slow. Lift heavy. Eat in a surplus but not too much. You’re not going to shortcut what many of us took years unless you take steroids.
Posted on 1/11/20 at 12:33 pm to TechDawg2007
Protein and creatine. The rest is bogus.
This post was edited on 1/11/20 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 1/11/20 at 9:02 pm to LSU Patrick
[quote]Protein and creatine. The rest is bogus[/quotyes sir. Some things can make very small difference but not worth money. If you want more, get your test levels checked. 
Posted on 1/14/20 at 11:16 am to LSU Patrick
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Protein and creatine.
How do you use creatine?
I've read some people load it, but I mix a teaspoon in gatorade immediately after my workout.
Posted on 1/14/20 at 11:27 am to L1C4
Just start using 5-10 g a day.
Loading doesn't really help, the thing is long term consistency. Having a constant basis of creatine in the system is all you need for the benefits.
Loading doesn't really help, the thing is long term consistency. Having a constant basis of creatine in the system is all you need for the benefits.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 12:34 pm to L1C4
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How do you use creatine?
I've read some people load it, but I mix a teaspoon in gatorade immediately after my workout.
Creatine will build up over time. You don't have to load, but it will get you to max efficacy faster. To load it, use 20g a day for the first 5-7 days. You can split it up throughout the day. The easiest way to do it is to take 10 grams with breakfast, 5 grams with lunch, and 5 grams just before your evening workout or with dinner. After that, you just maintain with 5 grams per day. You can cycle it if you want, but studies have really not shown any significant value for doing that.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:02 pm to LSU Patrick
If I take over 10g of creatine per day, I can shite through a screen door. Honestly, I haven't met many people who can tolerate 20g per day. That's so much lol.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 11:33 am to The Dudes Rug
I've never had any GI issues with it, but I've always had iron stomach and intestines. It could be the specific type and/or brand of creatine too though. There are two basic preparations of creatine on the market. It's possible that someone could be sensitive to one and not the other. It is even more likely that someone might be sensitive various additives. I would use the purest form you can find and see if that solves the GI issues.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 1:16 pm to The Dudes Rug
On a Ben Greenfield podcast I listened to recently he mentioned the maximum amount of Creatine your body can absorb and utilize per serving is around 1.5g which should be consumed at different times throughout the day and anywhere between 5-10g per day is plenty. Also, loading phase is a lie by the body building industry.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 2:13 pm to NotoriousFSU
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Also, loading phase is a lie by the body building industry.
This is true. The "maintenance" dose provides you over the max your muscles can be saturated with. Excess won't help you reach saturation faster, you'll just eliminate more.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 2:17 pm to NotoriousFSU
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Also, loading phase is a lie by the body building industry.
Not a "lie."
Healthline
It just isn't necessary. As I explained above, it can just lead to faster benefits.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 2:39 pm to LSU Patrick
Eh, the Healthline stuff really only cites a 1985 study and general studies conducted where the control group was people not consuming creatine.
Buried in the middle are the studies about how the absence of a loading protocol did not affect skeletal muscle power or hypertrophy. Those are the things that matter most.
Now look, if you do a loading protocol, you won't die. There's just not really evidence that it is any more effective than just regular doses.
Buried in the middle are the studies about how the absence of a loading protocol did not affect skeletal muscle power or hypertrophy. Those are the things that matter most.
Now look, if you do a loading protocol, you won't die. There's just not really evidence that it is any more effective than just regular doses.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 3:02 pm to Rep520
I agree. Either way, it's going to have some effect and will reach full effect within a few weeks. It's cheap. If it doesn't cause any stomach issue for you, you might as well load.
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