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re: Hafþór Júlíus Björnsson to attempt WR deadlift May 2nd
Posted on 5/2/20 at 11:54 am to StraightCashHomey21
Posted on 5/2/20 at 11:54 am to StraightCashHomey21
The speed and control of that lift was amazing!
Posted on 5/2/20 at 12:05 pm to BooDreaux
I want to point out that I said the Thor/Eddie beef was mostly promo hype much like boxing promotions. Now, Thor has stated they both have signed high dollar contracts with Core Sports for a "boxing" match.
It is sure to be gimmicky as hell, but I will probably follow and watch it just for shits and giggles.
It is sure to be gimmicky as hell, but I will probably follow and watch it just for shits and giggles.
This post was edited on 5/2/20 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 5/2/20 at 12:32 pm to LegendInMyMind
God I love meathead shite. Sniff ammonia, have someone yank on your ears, scream like a wild primitive, and deadlift 1000+ pounds. Incredible.
This post was edited on 5/2/20 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 5/2/20 at 12:41 pm to BooDreaux
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The speed and control of that lift was amazing!
Yeah, it never looked in doubt. Amazing.
Posted on 5/2/20 at 1:53 pm to Rep520
Amazing lift. Love his comment too...."I could lift more, but what's the point?". unfricking real.
This post was edited on 5/2/20 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 5/2/20 at 2:59 pm to lsu777
I had little doubt Thor could pull 501. I also am betting he will continue to set the deadlift record. I love Eddie, but I think he’s hit his ceiling. 500 damn near killed him. If he would attempt 550 or even 520, I think he would die.
Posted on 5/2/20 at 4:35 pm to DeafJam73
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I had little doubt Thor could pull 501. I also am betting he will continue to set the deadlift record. I love Eddie, but I think he’s hit his ceiling. 500 damn near killed him. If he would attempt 550 or even 520, I think he would die.
He's stated he has no desire to continue chasing records, particularly the deadlift record.
The more I've thought about it, and the more times I have seen his lift, the more convinced I am that most of his post-lift "damage" was for show. He didn't really struggle to pull 500kg, and when he got to the top he stood there and held it for 5 seconds or more. The holding it took more out of him than the lift. That night he could have pulled more, or he could have lifted 501,502, etc. if he continued his career. He proved a point with that lift to the tune of shattering the WR by 37kg and lifting a weight most said was impossible.
The reality is that without Eddie's lift (and he was the only person capable of it at the time) Thor's lift would not have gotten the attention it did today. They both, along with sponsors and promoters, worked together over the past year or two for what the sport will become. The 501 lift wasn't the only goal. The big payday for both Thor and Eddie (also an employee of Core Sports, btw) came after the lift. What both of those men did was advance the sport of strongman to a place it had been unable to reach in its decades long history.
Posted on 5/2/20 at 5:11 pm to LegendInMyMind
will thor be able to strict press the axle more than eddie hall's 216kg?
Posted on 5/2/20 at 7:40 pm to LegendInMyMind
Could he hit that steroid free?
Posted on 5/2/20 at 10:05 pm to DVinBR
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will thor be able to strict press the axle more than eddie hall's 216kg?
Doubt it. And I doubt that he wants to. He doesn't seem to enjoy pressing as much.
Posted on 5/2/20 at 10:05 pm to texag7
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Could he hit that steroid free?
No.
Posted on 5/4/20 at 9:53 am to LegendInMyMind
You seem to have a lot of insight into this so I have a question. I saw someone say the record shouldn't count since it wasn't done in a true meet (for the record I disagree with this statement). But generally what is the different between strongman rules vs. traditional powerlifting rules. Is it equipment, set-up, number of reps, testing, etc.?
Posted on 5/4/20 at 11:21 am to NOLALGD
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But generally what is the different between strongman rules vs. traditional powerlifting rules. Is it equipment, set-up, number of reps, testing, etc.?
There are two questions here. PL vs Strongman and why the issue with it not being in a meet.
Powerlifting doesn't allow straps and has separate raw vs equipped divisions for deadlift suits. Thor used straps and a suit, so his lift wouldn't have counted off the bat in powerlifting.
Powerlifting also doesn't allow hitching or ramping. Thor actually didn't hitch or ramp much, so that isn't a huge issue. In strongman, the only requirement is standing it up. You can see an example of ramping on Pudzianowski's later reps:
WSM deadlift
The primary issue with it being done out of competition is competitions are required to have accurate, standard plates and equipment checks. I'm not saying Thor's wasn't accurate, but with that many plates, if they're off by a pound here or there, it's the difference between a new record and not.
Bar flexibility is a big deal in the deadlift too. If Thor used an extra flexible bar, that could give an advantage. Again, not saying he did, just the standardization.
Finally, it's just easier to lift on your own setup. It's just a comfort thing.
Posted on 5/4/20 at 12:31 pm to Rep520
There are a lot of things that I like about WSM that you don’t get in powerlifting. The log press, atlas stones and all the burly carries. However, I am critical of their deadlift standards. I’ve seen a lot of sloppy deadlifts get the green light. To me, form isn’t just about the scorecard, it’s also mandatory for safety and muscle development purposes. You see it a lot more at the amateur level. Eddie Hall’s and Thor’s lift look like. legit lifts to me. The pros do it better, obviously.
Posted on 5/4/20 at 12:51 pm to Rep520
Well said and I agree. One thing I will add is that for many competitors, lifting at a big event is actually an advantage, as many feed off the energy of the crowd and the rush it provides.
Posted on 5/4/20 at 1:16 pm to DeafJam73
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I’ve seen a lot of sloppy deadlifts get the green light.
In strongman, it really is only that you're standing at the end. There aren't any rules in between.
Powerlifting, you can't ramp, hitch or have downwards movement to get a green light. It's one reason I hold Benni's 1015 in such high regard. No suit, no straps, just straight up.
If you want a laugh, look at this comparison of Hafthor from 09 to 2020.
Yikes
Posted on 5/4/20 at 1:16 pm to Rep520
I have to think with the hype that those plates were perfectly calibrated.
Posted on 5/4/20 at 1:26 pm to Dixie Normus
They weighed them on the video
Posted on 5/4/20 at 1:57 pm to Dixie Normus
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I have to think with the hype that those plates were perfectly calibrated.
Yeah, I'm not one who thinks that plate weight was an issue. Just that some people think it's easier to fake.
The bar didn't look extra flexible vs Eddie's lift. I would say the home setup and comfort factor was the only thing you could say might be an advantage for Thor.
I think it's an incredible lift that deserves all the attention and should be regarded as legit. I hope it brings more attention to strength sports.
Posted on 5/4/20 at 5:31 pm to Rep520
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If you want a laugh, look at this comparison of Hafthor from 09 to 2020.
Wow. I can’t believe that’s the same person.
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