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Fear of deadlifts
Posted on 3/8/21 at 7:19 pm
Posted on 3/8/21 at 7:19 pm
i have a friend, who is a cardiologist, admittedly fearful of trying deadlifts, as the movement's physics do not seem to him to be safe. im legitimately looking for a way to present an argument to him so he understands the full body strength aspects and benefits. TIA for your advise on this discussion
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Posted on 3/8/21 at 7:24 pm to aldawg2323
I quit doing them because I always strain my left outer hamstring.
Posted on 3/8/21 at 7:24 pm to aldawg2323
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as the movement's physics do not seem to him to be safe
Posted on 3/8/21 at 7:27 pm to aldawg2323
Nothing about the movement is inherently unsafe. It’s just a simple hip hinge and pull. It’s a natural movement and is one used frequently in everyday life. The problems people have is when they forget their form or let their ego get too big.
But if your friend is having doubts he could start with the trap bar deadlifts until he feels comfortable. The learning curve on those is not as steep.
But if your friend is having doubts he could start with the trap bar deadlifts until he feels comfortable. The learning curve on those is not as steep.
Posted on 3/8/21 at 8:39 pm to aldawg2323
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as the movement's physics do not seem to him to be safe.
Nonsense
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m legitimately looking for a way to present an argument to him so he understands the full body strength aspects and benefits. TIA for your advise on this discussion
Trap/hex bar
Posted on 3/8/21 at 9:01 pm to aldawg2323
Tell him that it's completely up to him to be scared. While you get big and lean on deads, he can keep up the skinny fat look. Whatever floats your boat.
Posted on 3/8/21 at 9:08 pm to StraightCashHomey21
I was taking a break from barbell DL last month because I was having a lot of lower back pain and did some trap hex DLs instead and cracked a rib. It sucked. How do I avoid that?
Posted on 3/8/21 at 9:17 pm to aldawg2323
Just don’t max out
Use the deadlift bar
Use the deadlift bar
Posted on 3/9/21 at 12:42 am to aldawg2323
I find going heavy on squats far more scary and higher risk of injuring my back. Pulled my back a few weeks ago and havent lifted since then.
Posted on 3/9/21 at 1:36 am to aldawg2323
This is the first time I've heard of it, but the act is that it doesn't work for everyone. But why be afraid? I didn't do them because of the contraindication. Of course, without preparation, you can hurt yourself.
Posted on 3/9/21 at 6:05 am to aldawg2323
People overthink the deadlift. It’s mechanically the easiest to do correctly of the big lifts. The reason why so many get hurt is because they don’t know how to do it, or they try to pull a load they are not capable of handling.
Posted on 3/9/21 at 6:12 am to numptythrubbers
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I find going heavy on squats far more scary and higher risk of injuring my back.
Squats are the most complex of the big lifts, especially under load.
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Pulled my back a few weeks ago and havent lifted since then
This is not good. Completely stopping will do more harm than good. You should see a doctor to diagnose your injury. Then, if all you have is a pull, you should get back in the gym. The best thing you can do is get back in the gym. START OFF LIGHT. If you can only do quarter depth squats, do that. You can do high box squats or other variants to help you. Push to the edge of pain, but don’t push to or through pain. Get blood flowing to muscles. All this is assuming you only have a pull though. See a doc first.
Posted on 3/9/21 at 7:13 am to DeafJam73
Hi deafjam thanks for the advice. I would say its a pull but occasionally get 'twinge' like pain in my lower back, which generally makes me feel weak/in pain.
I have kept active with calisthenics but starting to get itchy to hit the barbell again now!
I have kept active with calisthenics but starting to get itchy to hit the barbell again now!
Posted on 3/9/21 at 7:54 am to numptythrubbers
You should really have a doc look at you first. You never know if you actually have a structural problem you need addressed.
Posted on 3/9/21 at 8:17 am to numptythrubbers
Do you use a belt when deadlifting? A belt can make a world of difference when you learn how to brace with it properly.
Posted on 3/9/21 at 8:43 am to aldawg2323
I used to be able to rep 465 20 times! Now I have 5 herniated discs. In general I’d say “f#%* deadlifts”, but if they must be done do them very lightly. So many better ways to work all those muscle groups and not destroy your body.
Posted on 3/9/21 at 8:57 am to aldawg2323
Mark Rippetoe on the Deadlift (youtube)
You can get a copy of Starting Strength by Mark Rippetoe. He goes in depth on how to properly deadlift, and why its done that way.
You can get a copy of Starting Strength by Mark Rippetoe. He goes in depth on how to properly deadlift, and why its done that way.
Posted on 3/9/21 at 9:19 am to aldawg2323
DLs are a great exercise. From my experience, outside of horrid form most DL injuries are from too much weight (ego lifting) or too many, too fast reps (dumb programming). DLs are great when doing smooth (and maybe even slow for some people), controlled reps.
These days I find them easier on my body than squats and OHP.
These days I find them easier on my body than squats and OHP.
Posted on 3/10/21 at 4:49 pm to djangochained
No reason to ever go beyond a five rep max, especially if you’re not in it for anything but personal improvement. That takes a lot of risk out right there. It’s a hinge with a reverse leg press. Don’t ego it, and you’re good.
But I’m finding with age, I prefer the trap bar set up. It’s just more comfortable these days and is much lower risk.
But I’m finding with age, I prefer the trap bar set up. It’s just more comfortable these days and is much lower risk.
Posted on 3/10/21 at 5:14 pm to aldawg2323
Tell him deadlifts are a push not a pull. Once I got my head around that, it made them easier.
My posterior chain is so tight though that I have to make sure I really roll out my hamstrings, glutes, etc when I do a bunch.
My posterior chain is so tight though that I have to make sure I really roll out my hamstrings, glutes, etc when I do a bunch.
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