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Posted on 7/17/24 at 4:23 pm to
Posted by Lazy But Talented
Member since Aug 2011
15029 posts
Posted on 7/17/24 at 4:23 pm to
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What is the board's feeling about Coke-Zero Sugar



they taste good. I think I'll have one now.
Posted by Edward Rooney
Member since Jun 2024
269 posts
Posted on 7/17/24 at 5:10 pm to
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Can diet beverages really be bad for your brain?
Researchers analyzed health data from nearly 3,000 adults who had filled out diet surveys, and determined their incidence of stroke or dementia over 10 years. The findings were alarming.

Compared with people who said they didn't consume diet drinks, those who had at least one per day suffered three times more strokes, and were three times more likely to develop dementia. Consumption of regular (non-diet) soft drinks was not linked to a higher risk of these brain problems. And the results were unchanged when accounting for other important factors such as gender, diet, smoking, and physical activity.
Harvard Health LINK
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36537 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 7:43 am to
1) that is a survey study aka not a causation study. it doesnt account for anything other than they had diet beverages and survey studies are regarded as bullshite and not research. Same types of studies said diet drinks caused obesity but when strict randomized control studies were done, it showed the opposite

2) the article is filled with bullshite opinion.

debunking cancer
LINK

is erythritol bad for you?
LINK

bunch of studies on them

LINK



again...as i have said before...unless you are 12% or below BF and a FFMI of 23 or higher....perfect cholesterol, perfect blood pressure....stop worrying about stupid shite like this because you have much lower hanging fruit.
Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
12745 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 8:04 am to
Soda is one of the worst processed foods/drinks regardless of whether it is sugar free or not. Do some research on your own because many of the responses to your question on the "health/fitness" board are idiotic and run counter to science.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36537 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 8:10 am to
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Soda is one of the worst processed foods/drinks regardless of whether it is sugar free or not. Do some research on your own because many of the responses to your question on the "health/fitness" board are idiotic and run counter to science.






and this is why so many people are fat in this country.

Group A- looks good, in great health says....yea sure they are fine to have 1 or so a day to help with cravings, especially when dieting

Group B- skinny fat soy boys.....no no no...its processed...its terrible for you all while they spout off about zone 2 cardio and their terrible health markers and how cholesterol doesnt matter

frickign H&F board is becoming the OT quickly
Posted by slinger1317
Northshore
Member since Sep 2005
6818 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 8:14 am to
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lsu777


I have no dog in this fight, but I frequent this board and you argue with everyone.

You post studies on everything, but when someone else posts a study you fricking claim that its not legitimate.

You are the Pride87 of this board, and its not a compliment
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36537 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 8:22 am to
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You post studies on everything, but when someone else posts a study you fricking claim that its not legitimate.


it wasnt a study it was a bullshite article that mentioned a bullshite correlation study

ever think...hey maybe that mother fricker knows what he is talking about, knows how to ready a study...maybe i should check more into what he is saying? because if you havent...you should


again...all studies are not the same, stop taking them at face value and actually look at the data, look at the collection methods etc

and lets get something straight...im not arguing with anyone, i am correcting them. there is a difference.

you wont find me being wrong on many things...because if i dont know...i shut the frick up or say i dont know.

if i am wrong...will easily admit im wrong...ask any1 that has been on this board since the start and they will tell you

can i be an a-hole...sure, usually after being nice a bunch of times though.

you can all me whatever you want...but this board is being overrun with OT douche bags who dont listen, they dont read the research review publications, dont dig into the science of things...simply read a headline and they are suddenly an expert.
Posted by slinger1317
Northshore
Member since Sep 2005
6818 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 8:26 am to
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and lets get something straight...im not arguing with anyone, i am correcting them. there is a difference.

you wont find me being wrong on many things...because if i dont know...i shut the frick up or say i dont know.


Holy shite
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 8:52 am to
lsu777 is argumentative, but he's right. There's a plethora of misinformation surrounding health/fitness about the most basic of basics, not to mention the "gurus" that lead people to disordered eating mentalities for their own profit based around the confusing minutiae of health.

Evidence-based nutrition/health is pretty clear on a lot of topics that people like to debate way too heavily on this board. As 777 says, people debate the small things and ignore the core principles. If you're listening to Rhonda Patrick and Andrew Huberman for health advice and are 100lb overweight, you're probably missing the forest for the trees. And that's rich, coming from me
Posted by Rendlo
Member since Jun 2024
593 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 9:01 am to
Coke Zero may have no downside affect to my health, but it certainly acts as a "gateway" for me in the sense that after I have one, I crave sweets and excess carbs. I tend to stay away for that reason and just have a Topo Chico for when a carbonation craving hits.
This post was edited on 7/18/24 at 9:02 am
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36537 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 9:11 am to
quote:

lsu777 is argumentative, but he's right. There's a plethora of misinformation surrounding health/fitness about the most basic of basics, not to mention the "gurus" that lead people to disordered eating mentalities for their own profit based around the confusing minutiae of health.

Evidence-based nutrition/health is pretty clear on a lot of topics that people like to debate way too heavily on this board. As 777 says, people debate the small things and ignore the core principles. If you're listening to Rhonda Patrick and Andrew Huberman for health advice and are 100lb overweight, you're probably missing the forest for the trees. And that's rich, coming from me


thank you

pretty much my point

unless you are ffmi of 23 or 24, resting heart rate in the 50s, 12% or lower Bodyfat, getting 8k steps every single day, average 8 hours of sleep per night, perfect blood sugar, perfect cholesterol....etc etc...then we can walk about coke zero maybe not being the best choice


FTR im not saying coke zero is better than water or addin crystal light is better than drinking straight water

but what i am saying is...it is better than having a regular coke, it is better than having a slice of cake etc etc

i am saying it can help you on your weightloss journey and help keep the fat off(as seen in the studies) and

i am saying its not a zero sum game. 99.99% of the articles using scare tactics about things like coke zero do so by referencing bullshite studies like the havard article where they say...well we sent out a survey. so...just a cooralation. people want to prop them up because again it makes them feel morally superior in the way they approach their health. Yet we have multiple double blind causation studies showing that they help with fat loss, keeping it off, dont affect gut health negatively for 95%+ of people, dont cause cancer etc etc and the same people shite on those studies

why?

because it doesnt confirm their biases or it doesnt help them uphold some moralistic view that somehow...using zero calorie drinks are suddenly bad

and what they are going to say is...well its processed....look at the ingredients list...that cant be good for you. Cant tell you shite about 99% of the ingredients listed...yet will bitch about them.

then they are going to turn around talk about Europe has banned them etc and hold up Europe as some bastion of health and act like its because of things like this.


the lack of understanding of scientific principles and how to read a study, interpret data etc from otherwise intelligent people is just mind blowing to me.
Posted by tunechi
Member since Jun 2009
10520 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 9:21 am to
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You post studies on everything, but when someone else posts a study you fricking claim that its not legitimate.


I mean all "studies" are not created equal whatsoever lol
Posted by Homey the Clown
Member since Feb 2009
6018 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 10:43 am to
My favorite summertime alcoholic beverage is Vodka/Sprite Zero.

My favorite weekend morning beverage is an ice cold Coke Zero straight out of the can, where the spiciness makes my eyes water!
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
33007 posts
Posted on 7/19/24 at 9:57 am to
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19122 posts
Posted on 7/19/24 at 10:13 am to
Perfectly fine and safe to drink no matter what IG “doctors” say.
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
37524 posts
Posted on 7/19/24 at 10:13 am to
Coke Zero replacing regular Coke for me was the driving factor in losing my 40+ lbs of fat.

PFAS are in everything. Water also. It’s impossible to stay away from them.

My faves:
Coke Zero Sugar
Dr. Pepper Zero
I stopped caffeine outside early morning for the gym and it’s been life changing. Happier, more at peace, less agitated, better husband and father.
No caffeine faves:
Caffeine Free Coke Zero
A&W Root Beer Zero
7up Zero Sugar (waaaay better tasting than Sprite Zero but will get that if I have to)

And as far as the 777 stuff..
Dude knows what he’s talking about. People will link an article or “study” citing it as fact but don’t research them enough to know the details. That’s not a knock. Most people, myself included, don’t spend the time breaking down the details, control groups, etc.
777 does and has the educational background to establish his credibility.
Gary Brecka comes to mind who I’ve been corrected on before.
This post was edited on 7/19/24 at 10:16 am
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36537 posts
Posted on 7/19/24 at 10:58 am to
quote:

And as far as the 777 stuff..
Dude knows what he’s talking about. People will link an article or “study” citing it as fact but don’t research them enough to know the details. That’s not a knock. Most people, myself included, don’t spend the time breaking down the details, control groups, etc.
777 does and has the educational background to establish his credibility.
Gary Brecka comes to mind who I’ve been corrected on before.


thanks

but all you have to do is subscribe to the research reviews and let guys that are smarter than me do it. Just have to have some understanding to make sure they are breaking it down correctly.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
73117 posts
Posted on 7/21/24 at 7:45 pm to
I drank way too many coke zeros. More than 6 a day. And it contributed to some serious medical issues. I had no idea the dangers of consuming phosphates on that level. In moderation, fine. But only root beer and clear sodas don't have phosphate. Worse than sodium for many.


Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
7434 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 2:17 pm to
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I'd argue all the PFAS's in regular sodas are worse for you than the sugar.


You could go out right now and kill a wild deer, carefully butcher it yourself, only store it in non-plastic containers, then cook it and it would still likely have PFAS in it

Its not whether or not its there, its how much. A lot of it is alarmism. But significant amounts can be very detrimental.
Posted by ConfusedHawgInMO
Member since Apr 2014
3578 posts
Posted on 7/24/24 at 1:48 pm to
I'm a Coke fan and I think Coke Zero is the worst diet soda out there today. Dr. Pepper and Pepsi have far better tasting diet colas.
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