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Body recomp problem area - midsection

Posted on 8/19/20 at 1:59 pm
Posted by SkintBack
SoLo
Member since Nov 2015
1888 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 1:59 pm
Successful changed my fate here in the last 5 months. Went from fat, to not as fat but more fit. Biggest area of improvement is chest, traps, and hips. Yay for that.

I lost 2 3/4" off my midsection initially, now it is stalled. I throw everything at it, weight training, HITT, running, walking, biking, core work etc. I haven't been super strict on my diet, but it almost seems like the impossible task to lose another inch from my stomach area. KETO is my last resort, but I'm getting close. Anyone ran into the same issues? How can I keep getting stronger, running faster, growing muscle, but the damn stomach doesn't budge???
Posted by Huey Lewis
BR
Member since Oct 2013
5104 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 2:10 pm to
Once you're out of beginner gains territory, body recomp is going to be very slow. You're looking at a 3-5 year process if you want to be getting stronger while building some muscle while also dropping fat and leaning out.
Posted by LSUfan20005
Member since Sep 2012
9220 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 2:14 pm to
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How can I keep getting stronger, running faster, growing muscle, but the damn stomach doesn't budge???


Well, you could be eating a slight surplus, so you are fueling performance but not losing weight.

You need to track calories and macros.

My simple suggestion is to get a good app and calculator, eat at a sufficient deficit with an isocaloric balanced macro profile, and ride that for 4wks before making any other dietary changes
Posted by TigerInCbus
Raymond
Member since Feb 2018
361 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 2:29 pm to
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I haven't been super strict on my diet


There's your trouble.

1. Use an online calculator to determine your TDEE.
2. Download MyFitnessPal and make a profile. Set your daily caloric intake to TDEE - 500 calories.
3. Track your calories. I recommend doing it by weight, so get a cheap digital food scale on Amazon.

If you can make this your routine for the next 2-3 months, you will probably lose 5 lbs of fat. Keep your protein intake as like 35-40% of your caloric intake and you will not lose a ton of muscle as long as you keep a good weight training program.
Posted by SkintBack
SoLo
Member since Nov 2015
1888 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 2:51 pm to
Yep you are exactly right. I always thought that I could get to my goal in 5 or 6 months if I ever buckled down, but yea no that aint happening. It is definitely a marathon. I've made lots of progress in 5 months, should be happy about that, but I want more.
Posted by Yeti_Chaser
Member since Nov 2017
12818 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 2:53 pm to
As others have said, start tracking your food.

One other thing I've been reading about today is strengthening the transverse abdominis. This is the inner muscle that holds everything together in your midsection. The idea is that supposedly if you strengthen it up it will draw your organs in tighter which could help you drop your waist size a bit.
Posted by MrSpock
Member since Sep 2015
5112 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 2:53 pm to
quote:

I haven't been super strict on my diet


Like others have said.

A few extra ounces of protein per day and you may be at a 200-300 calorie surplus. Over seven days that's about half pound of fat.
Posted by LSUAlum2001
Stavro Mueller Beta
Member since Aug 2003
48460 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 3:31 pm to
For most, that will be the last thing to go.

You will lean out everywhere else ahead of the abdominal region.

Clean up the diet and keep doing what you're doing.
Posted by SkintBack
SoLo
Member since Nov 2015
1888 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 4:01 pm to
It can definitely add up, but a half pound of fat in a week? That means in the last 2 months I would have added 4 pounds of fat? Nah. I have maintained or lost fat, added some muscle. With the intensity and regimen I've been doing those extra 300 calories are not going to fat.

I don't mind the extra calories if it is for the sake of muscle. It's just insurance for if I go over my daily caloric goal. But I do need to tighten up to be in a deficit.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
37904 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 5:22 pm to
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3-5 years




Dude use the RP diet app and in 12 weeks you will prolly be where you want to be.
Posted by MrSpock
Member since Sep 2015
5112 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 7:54 pm to
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It can definitely add up, but a half pound of fat in a week? That means in the last 2 months I would have added 4 pounds of fat? Nah. I have maintained or lost fat, added some muscle. With the intensity and regimen I've been doing those extra 300 calories are not going to fat.

I don't mind the extra calories if it is for the sake of muscle. It's just insurance for if I go over my daily caloric goal. But I do need to tighten up to be in a deficit.


Huh? My post was to illustrate the point of how easy it is to overeat when you think you're in a deficit and it's consequences.

Nobody knows how much you're eating including yourself.
Posted by Yewkindewit
Near Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Apr 2012
21821 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 9:46 pm to
Same here. I’ll be 68 in a couple of months. In a year and a half I dropped down to 202 from near 230 and Have always fluctuated between 215-225 or so. I’ve gained muscle everywhere, lost fat, reduced waist by 3 belt notches but still have excess at the tummy.
I’ve added cardio to the weight training and better diet in hopes it’ll help burn the leftover chub.
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
37858 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 9:57 pm to
I’ve tried and was in the same boat.
Trainer at the gym told me it’s basically impossible to do a true recomp. You need tons of clean calories for gains but you need to cut back on calories to lose the weight I wanted to lose in my gut. (Only scientific way to lose weight is to burn more calories than you consume)

He suggested, and I’m trying with a ton of success, to spend 4-6 weeks cutting. Keeping protein at 1:1, grams:bodyweight is keeping probably 90% of the muscle I’ve gained while I eat around half the calories I was eating. Do HIIT twice a week, two lifting days.

I’m almost to my goal and then it’s back to the GAINZ!
This post was edited on 8/20/20 at 7:30 am
Posted by SkintBack
SoLo
Member since Nov 2015
1888 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 7:56 am to
Thats kind of what me and my brother have been talking about. You either do one or the other in cycles. 6 week cut, 12 week calorie surplus and grow, 6 week cut etc.

I may give carb cycling a try. Its one thing I haven't done and I'm an endomorph and my body hates carbs, but I can't do low carb day after day. But I can do it every other day. Appreciate your input.
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
37858 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 12:03 pm to
Good for you man.
When it comes to diet I’ve tried it all.
Even lost 30 lbs in 30 days but I crushed my metabolism.
After a few years what I’ve learned FOR ME, is I have to be super strict 6 days out of the week. On the 7th day though... it’s balls to the wall eat whatever I want all day. This is the only method that has kept me in a good routine for a prolonged period. The other methods I get bored with it and get fat again. Been going at it for a year now.
This post was edited on 8/20/20 at 2:33 pm
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
108261 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 12:19 pm to
More efficient to focus on weight loss... Strip off the bad weight. When you get to that goal, start lifting heavy again and eating like an elephant.
Posted by SkintBack
SoLo
Member since Nov 2015
1888 posts
Posted on 8/20/20 at 1:24 pm to
I would agree. I would like to strip off the fat and then build from there. I'm in my mid 40's now, this shite used to be easy.
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19122 posts
Posted on 8/21/20 at 2:02 pm to
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the RP diet app


What is this?
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
37904 posts
Posted on 8/21/20 at 6:54 pm to
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Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19122 posts
Posted on 8/21/20 at 6:59 pm to
Thank you sir
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