re: Baws that just lift, how and why?

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I have not lived in the south for over a decade but is this a thing? Is golf wearing people out down there?

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well only 8-10% of the population does any form of resistance training, prolly about the same amount do cardio so prolly 70%+ do not do any real form of exercise and the south has the highest rates of obesity and they highest temps/humidty for the most part.

so yea golf wears alot of people out.

but golf is not aerobic and conditioning, like power, is energy system specific. so not sure how running slow over long distances would help with not getting tired in a game where you lots of 1 second bouts of high intensity followed by long bouts of active rest.

if you wanted to train for golf, ppsa would be perfect. Lots of heavy lifting(short burst of intensity) and then lots of walking(can add a vest if you want to simulate carrying your bag)

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You do conditioning. There's a bunch of dudes on this site and in gyms that go do a couple sets of a compound lift and two supersets and bounce.

It doesn't have to be hard or take that long. Echo bike/rowing intervals, sleds, sandbags. It takes like 10 minutes

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oh ok, i thought you were talking like dedicated time line on a treadmill or elliptical or like a 5 mile job...cause i dont do that shite. lately i just been lifting, walking with vest or KB and playing a ton with my kids other than my warm up.


i do agree, you cant lift 3-4 times a week, sit all day at work, come home and plop on the couch and expect to be in great health.

walking in general or getting steps in general is very very underrated. latest thing i have seen seem to show 8-12k steps a day to be the sweet spot in relation to all cause mortality. anything more doesnt really do a ton, and up to 8k or so is pretty linear relationship.

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Thanks baw. Seems easy enough

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Be careful doing that exercise in public or people will think you are training for jacking off.

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that is like bragging about being able to get up in the morning

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I agree. Unfortunately most Americans can't do this

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People will say “I can’t do cardio because it’ll hurt my strength gains”

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Those people are in their 40s and not that strong. That's why I don't get it. If you are trying to actually compete at a high level, sure go for it, but those guys are under no illusion that they're healthy.

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Better to be fit and pretty strong, than really strong and fat with a rotting heart.

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Completely agree. If you can't run a mile, like actually run, which should be right on your lactate threshold, you aren't fit.

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There's a bunch of dudes on this site and in gyms that go do a couple sets of a compound lift and two supersets and bounce.

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Feeling attacked here.

You're right though. I had started doing some cardio/conditioning but stopped. I want to do the Couch to 5k plan, but haven't really committed yet.

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Completely agree. If you can't run a mile, like actually run, which should be right on your lactate threshold, you aren't fit.

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see that is complete bullshite that i was talking about

why the frick do i need to run a mile? there is nothing healthy about it that i cant get from other forms of exercise

i do not use that energy system in real life. its about the least functional thing you could do. when in life are you going to need to do a long slow jog?

the whole heart health thing is bullshite. there are tons of studies, including one that schoefeld put out this morning, that shows that lifting weights is the #1 anti aging and heart healthy activity.

walking has a much better corrolation to all cause mortality

jogging has a higher injury rate than lifting weights

jogging has no place in athletic training, zero, zilch, none as it has been proven to make you slower and cut into recovery. not to mention hard as frick on your joints.

sprinting, like true all out sprinting which is less than 100m and at an rpe of 10, and the ability to do so is a much better indicator of quality of life as we age.

chinup is even better than that, as is a reverse lunge


Sure if you are obese and just lift....well wouldnt hurt to be able to A) stop being a fat frick, B) learn to be able to do some sprints

but you are essentially just throwing shite out there that isnt true. running, aka jogging, a mile or more is about the 5th or 6th thing down the list of items that determine being fit.

in other words, your conclusion is shite and based on some old way of thinking that dont make sense anymore. I will concede everyone should have some base level of conditioning, but most dont need to do really anything that uses the Aerobic Oxidative System in normal life.

and i will say this, not only does science show that walking and lifting are way more important to all cause mortality and anti aging, its obvious in real life too. Go see someone that jogs a lot and lifts half arse, in 99% of cases they look like shite. go find someone that lifts hard and does 5 min of hard conditioing 2x a week and i promise they are going to look better and be more functional

hell take someone that does one of the 4x ppsa programs that also gets in the walks.....very good chance they look and perform better than someone that runs 5 miles 5x a week and does 20 min of lifting 2x per week.

I lift three times a week and do some kind of cardio twice a week. 2 mile run with a weighted vest maybe once or twice a month, the other times I run 2 miles is with no vest. I also do a I guess "circuit" with my vest as well. 5 sprints with some type of exercise in between each sprint. I agree being strong and being able to run without stopping is my goal.

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There's a bunch of dudes on this site and in gyms that go do a couple sets of a compound lift and two supersets and bounce.

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I lift in the gym but do all of my cardio at home.

I average about 14.5k steps and burn 1800 active calories per day and none of that is running. (according to my Apple Watch)