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Time to change the Ryder Cup
Posted on 5/14/26 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 5/14/26 at 12:04 pm
I fully recognize and understand the tradition that has evolved out of the Ryder Cup becoming a main sporting event over the past decade or so. For the longest time it was more an exhibition match... the American PGA tour against the British PGA Tour. Then later against the European Tour.
And it should have stayed that way. Let's be real, it isn't near that way anymore. Yes, European players make up one side of the team, but honestly those guys play the PGA tour the vast majority of time. In fact, some have homes in the US, many played on US college teams, and many have American wives. Sure, they play a couple of European events, but let's admit, they are not by definition European Tour players. I think even Samuel Ryder would admit the event has changed out of the original intent.
The other thing, the format is out of whack. The alternating shot format is more a Scottish thing than international to the game. How many American golfers frequent a golf course and play alternating shot? But in Scotland it is normal. Collectively, most Americans will tell you they hate to play this format, instead they would say Scramble is more in keeping with the game. Each player is hitting the next shot.
Another aspect is that the Ryder Cup is a difficult event to attend. Basically, the matches are encompassed in just a few holes instead of the entire course being occupied at one time. People I know who have attended complain about not seeing much of the match; following a group is sometimes 5 or 6 persons deep in the crowd. It is good for TV, but not if you want to attend.
Here is what I would change. Anyone that plays on the European side has to play at least 9 tournaments in Europe per year and make the cut. Instead of 12 players per team, increase the team size to 20... and everyone plays in every match. No substituting or sitting out, if someone is injured or sick, then one of the team co-captains steps in to play.
I would change the matches to be this way: Match 1 - individual one on one match play. Match 2 - Two player team (their total 18 hole score against the other team). Match 3 - Two player team scramble match play. Match 4 - Two player team best ball match play. Match 5 - Two player team alternating shot match play (okay, I will let this in though I hate it). Match 6 - individual one on one match play. Stretch it out over four days, not three.
I would also give out prize money for each individual match, winner only gets the prize (and the caddy gets a cut), loser zip. Don't go overboard with this, just enough to make it interesting and motivating for the players who normally play under this situation.
Then, let's see who has the better team. Plus, attending would be a blast rather than an inconvenience. Otherwise, golfing fans are eventually going to stop caring about this event because it isn't truly a US vs Europe event played for National pride. It just isn't and will eventually die out because of that and its lame format. I watched day one of the last match and then opted out, and I don't think I was the only one.
And it should have stayed that way. Let's be real, it isn't near that way anymore. Yes, European players make up one side of the team, but honestly those guys play the PGA tour the vast majority of time. In fact, some have homes in the US, many played on US college teams, and many have American wives. Sure, they play a couple of European events, but let's admit, they are not by definition European Tour players. I think even Samuel Ryder would admit the event has changed out of the original intent.
The other thing, the format is out of whack. The alternating shot format is more a Scottish thing than international to the game. How many American golfers frequent a golf course and play alternating shot? But in Scotland it is normal. Collectively, most Americans will tell you they hate to play this format, instead they would say Scramble is more in keeping with the game. Each player is hitting the next shot.
Another aspect is that the Ryder Cup is a difficult event to attend. Basically, the matches are encompassed in just a few holes instead of the entire course being occupied at one time. People I know who have attended complain about not seeing much of the match; following a group is sometimes 5 or 6 persons deep in the crowd. It is good for TV, but not if you want to attend.
Here is what I would change. Anyone that plays on the European side has to play at least 9 tournaments in Europe per year and make the cut. Instead of 12 players per team, increase the team size to 20... and everyone plays in every match. No substituting or sitting out, if someone is injured or sick, then one of the team co-captains steps in to play.
I would change the matches to be this way: Match 1 - individual one on one match play. Match 2 - Two player team (their total 18 hole score against the other team). Match 3 - Two player team scramble match play. Match 4 - Two player team best ball match play. Match 5 - Two player team alternating shot match play (okay, I will let this in though I hate it). Match 6 - individual one on one match play. Stretch it out over four days, not three.
I would also give out prize money for each individual match, winner only gets the prize (and the caddy gets a cut), loser zip. Don't go overboard with this, just enough to make it interesting and motivating for the players who normally play under this situation.
Then, let's see who has the better team. Plus, attending would be a blast rather than an inconvenience. Otherwise, golfing fans are eventually going to stop caring about this event because it isn't truly a US vs Europe event played for National pride. It just isn't and will eventually die out because of that and its lame format. I watched day one of the last match and then opted out, and I don't think I was the only one.
Posted on 5/14/26 at 12:32 pm to Remnant
So you basically just want to make it easier for the Americans?
I think a fix would be the Americans simply just play better golf.
Attendance I can’t speak to but I personally would probably not watch if they gave out prize money on matches. Part of what makes the Ryder Cup great is you are playing for pride. Don’t need the Ryder Cup becoming the NIL version of college football where pride in your team is out the window.
I think a fix would be the Americans simply just play better golf.
Attendance I can’t speak to but I personally would probably not watch if they gave out prize money on matches. Part of what makes the Ryder Cup great is you are playing for pride. Don’t need the Ryder Cup becoming the NIL version of college football where pride in your team is out the window.
Posted on 5/14/26 at 3:29 pm to Remnant
Outside of the Euro Tour event requirements, I wouldn’t hate it. The scramble portion would be awesome.
Posted on 5/14/26 at 3:48 pm to Remnant
Nonsense, outside of Azinger we generally pick shittier Captains than Europe and have no clue how to build camaraderie to consistently win the Ryder Cup.
Furyk likely to fall in line like Zach Johnson and Keegan Bradley and be another flop like his past failure in 2018.
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Furyk likely to fall in line like Zach Johnson and Keegan Bradley and be another flop like his past failure in 2018.
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This post was edited on 5/14/26 at 3:53 pm
Posted on 5/15/26 at 8:17 am to Remnant
I actually wish there were more alternating shot format tournaments in the states, but too many absolute hackers play in fundraiser tourneys for that to be viable.
Posted on 5/15/26 at 9:37 am to Remnant
The euros treat it as a major (or more) and Americans treat it as a novelty.
Posted on 5/15/26 at 1:36 pm to Remnant
Interesting, no one commented about the Europeans playing basically on the American Tour and not on the European Tour. Does this truly make America Tour against Europe Tours?
Posted on 5/15/26 at 2:00 pm to Remnant
I actually agree with your premise. Watching the Prince Of Ponte Vedra and an Austrian with a Georgia accent does nothing for me. Throw in the idiot fans the us event attracts and I barely watched any of Bethpage.
It was a signature event with 4 ball. Meh
It was a signature event with 4 ball. Meh
Posted on 5/16/26 at 3:13 pm to Remnant
This is one of the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. I’d say you won’t get one upvote but you could do that yourself
Posted on 5/17/26 at 6:35 am to Remnant
quote:To play as a European on the Ryder Cup, they have to maintain their DP World Tour membership, which only requires 4 events outside the majors. The prize money for DP World Tour events is 1/4 to 1/2 of the PGA Tour events The DP World Tour has become a path to the PGA Tour.
no one commented about the Europeans playing basically on the American Tour and not on the European Tour
Posted on 5/17/26 at 9:04 pm to iwyLSUiwy
The last two Ryder Cups have produced Scottie and Cam Young so the US has something going right for them
Posted on 5/18/26 at 9:42 am to tzimme4
And now team Europe just picked up Aaron Rai.
Posted on 5/18/26 at 10:30 am to Geauxldilocks
quote:I just don't think this is as important as you're portraying it. They make putts. We do not. They hit fairways. We do not...
Nonsense, outside of Azinger we generally pick shittier Captains than Europe and have no clue how to build camaraderie to consistently win the Ryder Cup.
Posted on 5/18/26 at 10:55 am to TejasHorn
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The euros treat it as a major (or more) and Americans treat it as a novelty.
The decline of the dominance of Team USA in the Ryder Cup pretty much coincides with the creation of The Presidents Cup.
The team spirit and importance of the Ryder Cup is watered-down by the fact that Team USA is playing every year.
Leave the Ryder Cup as it is currently scheduled and change The Presidents Cup to once every 5 years and it would strengthen both events.
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