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Time to change the Ryder Cup

Posted on 5/14/26 at 12:04 pm
Posted by Remnant
Member since Oct 2025
39 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 12:04 pm
I fully recognize and understand the tradition that has evolved out of the Ryder Cup becoming a main sporting event over the past decade or so. For the longest time it was more an exhibition match... the American PGA tour against the British PGA Tour. Then later against the European Tour.

And it should have stayed that way. Let's be real, it isn't near that way anymore. Yes, European players make up one side of the team, but honestly those guys play the PGA tour the vast majority of time. In fact, some have homes in the US, many played on US college teams, and many have American wives. Sure, they play a couple of European events, but let's admit, they are not by definition European Tour players. I think even Samuel Ryder would admit the event has changed out of the original intent.

The other thing, the format is out of whack. The alternating shot format is more a Scottish thing than international to the game. How many American golfers frequent a golf course and play alternating shot? But in Scotland it is normal. Collectively, most Americans will tell you they hate to play this format, instead they would say Scramble is more in keeping with the game. Each player is hitting the next shot.

Another aspect is that the Ryder Cup is a difficult event to attend. Basically, the matches are encompassed in just a few holes instead of the entire course being occupied at one time. People I know who have attended complain about not seeing much of the match; following a group is sometimes 5 or 6 persons deep in the crowd. It is good for TV, but not if you want to attend.

Here is what I would change. Anyone that plays on the European side has to play at least 9 tournaments in Europe per year and make the cut. Instead of 12 players per team, increase the team size to 20... and everyone plays in every match. No substituting or sitting out, if someone is injured or sick, then one of the team co-captains steps in to play.

I would change the matches to be this way: Match 1 - individual one on one match play. Match 2 - Two player team (their total 18 hole score against the other team). Match 3 - Two player team scramble match play. Match 4 - Two player team best ball match play. Match 5 - Two player team alternating shot match play (okay, I will let this in though I hate it). Match 6 - individual one on one match play. Stretch it out over four days, not three.

I would also give out prize money for each individual match, winner only gets the prize (and the caddy gets a cut), loser zip. Don't go overboard with this, just enough to make it interesting and motivating for the players who normally play under this situation.

Then, let's see who has the better team. Plus, attending would be a blast rather than an inconvenience. Otherwise, golfing fans are eventually going to stop caring about this event because it isn't truly a US vs Europe event played for National pride. It just isn't and will eventually die out because of that and its lame format. I watched day one of the last match and then opted out, and I don't think I was the only one.

Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
42376 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 12:32 pm to
So you basically just want to make it easier for the Americans?

I think a fix would be the Americans simply just play better golf.

Attendance I can’t speak to but I personally would probably not watch if they gave out prize money on matches. Part of what makes the Ryder Cup great is you are playing for pride. Don’t need the Ryder Cup becoming the NIL version of college football where pride in your team is out the window.
Posted by chew4219
Member since Sep 2009
3199 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 3:29 pm to
Outside of the Euro Tour event requirements, I wouldn’t hate it. The scramble portion would be awesome.
Posted by Geauxldilocks
Member since Aug 2018
6602 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 3:48 pm to
Nonsense, outside of Azinger we generally pick shittier Captains than Europe and have no clue how to build camaraderie to consistently win the Ryder Cup.

Furyk likely to fall in line like Zach Johnson and Keegan Bradley and be another flop like his past failure in 2018.

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This post was edited on 5/14/26 at 3:53 pm
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
39995 posts
Posted on 5/15/26 at 8:17 am to
I actually wish there were more alternating shot format tournaments in the states, but too many absolute hackers play in fundraiser tourneys for that to be viable.
Posted by TejasHorn
High Plains Driftin'
Member since Mar 2007
11626 posts
Posted on 5/15/26 at 9:37 am to
The euros treat it as a major (or more) and Americans treat it as a novelty.
Posted by Remnant
Member since Oct 2025
39 posts
Posted on 5/15/26 at 1:36 pm to
Interesting, no one commented about the Europeans playing basically on the American Tour and not on the European Tour. Does this truly make America Tour against Europe Tours?
Posted by CPA Yung Boi
Member since Apr 2026
27 posts
Posted on 5/15/26 at 2:00 pm to
I actually agree with your premise. Watching the Prince Of Ponte Vedra and an Austrian with a Georgia accent does nothing for me. Throw in the idiot fans the us event attracts and I barely watched any of Bethpage.

It was a signature event with 4 ball. Meh
Posted by lsujag
Member since Jan 2012
2850 posts
Posted on 5/16/26 at 3:13 pm to
This is one of the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. I’d say you won’t get one upvote but you could do that yourself
Posted by GeauxTigersLee
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2010
4689 posts
Posted on 5/17/26 at 6:35 am to
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no one commented about the Europeans playing basically on the American Tour and not on the European Tour
To play as a European on the Ryder Cup, they have to maintain their DP World Tour membership, which only requires 4 events outside the majors. The prize money for DP World Tour events is 1/4 to 1/2 of the PGA Tour events The DP World Tour has become a path to the PGA Tour.
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
33318 posts
Posted on 5/17/26 at 9:04 pm to
The last two Ryder Cups have produced Scottie and Cam Young so the US has something going right for them
Posted by lsubruce
baton rouge, la.
Member since Oct 2004
1188 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 9:42 am to
And now team Europe just picked up Aaron Rai.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87396 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 10:30 am to
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Nonsense, outside of Azinger we generally pick shittier Captains than Europe and have no clue how to build camaraderie to consistently win the Ryder Cup.
I just don't think this is as important as you're portraying it. They make putts. We do not. They hit fairways. We do not...
Posted by DivotBreath
On the course
Member since Oct 2007
3724 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 10:55 am to
quote:

The euros treat it as a major (or more) and Americans treat it as a novelty.


The decline of the dominance of Team USA in the Ryder Cup pretty much coincides with the creation of The Presidents Cup.

The team spirit and importance of the Ryder Cup is watered-down by the fact that Team USA is playing every year.

Leave the Ryder Cup as it is currently scheduled and change The Presidents Cup to once every 5 years and it would strengthen both events.
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