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New PGA Tour - 15 to 18 events
Posted on 6/4/26 at 8:35 am
Posted on 6/4/26 at 8:35 am
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15-18 events. Any large metro area without a tourney they want to expand to. Let's assume they want to expand to 5 large markets currently without an event. Off the top of my head: NYC, Washington, Boston, Chicago, Philly. That leaves 10-13 current tournaments that will survive as PGA Tour events. The rest become Korn Ferry-style events.
So, who survives? (Sawgrass is not counted in the 15-18 according to the story)
1. Torrey Pines
2. Riviera
3. Scottsdale
4. Doral or PGA National (only saving grace for PGA National is Doral was hot garbage this year)
5. Bay Hill
6. Innisbrook
7. Houston
8. Dallas
9. Colonial
10. East Lake
So that means, events like the old Bob Hope, Pebble, the Heritage, Zurich, San Antonio, the Memorial, The Travelers, Southwind, Canada, Quail Hollow and others all either barely make the cut if they choose to have more the 15 events or become Korn Ferry-style events, or worse just fold. I can even see them trying to move the Players out of Sawgrass, since Jacksonville doesn't fit the "large metro area" desire.
They used to be in many of these larger markets but those events died naturally. Washington couldn't get consistent sponsorship. Couldn't find a quality course in Chicago willing to host an annual event. I don't know why Westchester died or why they stopped going to Boston, but they did.
I understand change and moving forward, but the prospect of not seeing quality tournament golf at Pebble, Harbour Town, Muirfield Village, Southwind, or TPC River Highlands and others is not something I'm looking forward too. So many courses will be added to the list of places that it's shameful that the Tour left (Firestone).
Then there is the effect on American golf. There will be fewer Americans earning world ranking points at a top level, since the tier 2 tour will undoubtedly be below the DP World Tour as far as the OWGR is concerned. So, fewer Americans at major championships. Fewer Americans in contention at majors since fewer Americans are getting the right kind of preparation since the actual tour is smaller. Fewer Americans developing because they cannot get out of the minor leagues. More young American golfers choosing Europe over the minor US Tour.
This whole affair seems greedy, arrogant, and over the top. It comes across as absorbing the LIV attitude of "do what we want, tradition and the good of the game be damned." They beat LIV so they feel invincible. As a golf fan, it's short-sighted and worrisome.
15-18 events. Any large metro area without a tourney they want to expand to. Let's assume they want to expand to 5 large markets currently without an event. Off the top of my head: NYC, Washington, Boston, Chicago, Philly. That leaves 10-13 current tournaments that will survive as PGA Tour events. The rest become Korn Ferry-style events.
So, who survives? (Sawgrass is not counted in the 15-18 according to the story)
1. Torrey Pines
2. Riviera
3. Scottsdale
4. Doral or PGA National (only saving grace for PGA National is Doral was hot garbage this year)
5. Bay Hill
6. Innisbrook
7. Houston
8. Dallas
9. Colonial
10. East Lake
So that means, events like the old Bob Hope, Pebble, the Heritage, Zurich, San Antonio, the Memorial, The Travelers, Southwind, Canada, Quail Hollow and others all either barely make the cut if they choose to have more the 15 events or become Korn Ferry-style events, or worse just fold. I can even see them trying to move the Players out of Sawgrass, since Jacksonville doesn't fit the "large metro area" desire.
They used to be in many of these larger markets but those events died naturally. Washington couldn't get consistent sponsorship. Couldn't find a quality course in Chicago willing to host an annual event. I don't know why Westchester died or why they stopped going to Boston, but they did.
I understand change and moving forward, but the prospect of not seeing quality tournament golf at Pebble, Harbour Town, Muirfield Village, Southwind, or TPC River Highlands and others is not something I'm looking forward too. So many courses will be added to the list of places that it's shameful that the Tour left (Firestone).
Then there is the effect on American golf. There will be fewer Americans earning world ranking points at a top level, since the tier 2 tour will undoubtedly be below the DP World Tour as far as the OWGR is concerned. So, fewer Americans at major championships. Fewer Americans in contention at majors since fewer Americans are getting the right kind of preparation since the actual tour is smaller. Fewer Americans developing because they cannot get out of the minor leagues. More young American golfers choosing Europe over the minor US Tour.
This whole affair seems greedy, arrogant, and over the top. It comes across as absorbing the LIV attitude of "do what we want, tradition and the good of the game be damned." They beat LIV so they feel invincible. As a golf fan, it's short-sighted and worrisome.
This post was edited on 6/4/26 at 8:36 am
Posted on 6/4/26 at 9:03 am to bstaceyau19
Pebble, heritage, the memorial, will all make it.
Posted on 6/4/26 at 9:08 am to bstaceyau19
It's hilarious that in a time where golf is as popular as ever, the PGA tour is trying to play a lot less golf.
Posted on 6/4/26 at 9:16 am to JohnnyKilroy
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It's hilarious that in a time where golf is as popular as ever, the PGA tour is trying to play a lot less golf.
They will still have events virtually every week, but they won't all be track 1 events. They have had multiple guys skip out on signature events this year. If a 20 million dollar purse isn't enough to get all the best players to be in each tournament, they are trying to figure out what will do that. You will still see guys like Spieth and Scheffler play in track 2 Texas events if they want, but these track 1 events will be the ones where they are trying to get all the top players to play.
I am on board with pretty much all of their proposals with the exception of the big market events. If big cities were good for tournaments, they'd already have them. If Chicago happens to be a great spot for a tournament, good, but don't force it.
Posted on 6/4/26 at 9:26 am to DestrehanTiger
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You will still see guys like Spieth and Scheffler play in track 2 Texas events
Lot of rumors floating around that Tier 1 guys won't be eligible to play tier 2 events.
Posted on 6/4/26 at 9:29 am to icegator337
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Lot of rumors floating around that Tier 1 guys won't be eligible to play tier 2 events.
That would be pretty shocking to me. Let's say I am RBC. The PGA Tour comes to me and says we want you to put up X dollars for a Track 2 event, oh, and Cam Young, one of your ambassadors, is not allowed to play in it. That just doesn't make sense. I am not saying you are wrong, though.
I get it from a strictly competitive standpoint. These 125 guys already have access to the 15-18 big events. It would not be fair to allow them to come take points from guys that can't play in those events. This is just another example of why completely reconfiguring how the tour works will take time.
Posted on 6/4/26 at 9:30 am to bstaceyau19
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New PGA Tour - 15 to 18 events
I don't understand, why do they want to play less golf?
what am I missing?
Posted on 6/4/26 at 9:32 am to DestrehanTiger
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If a 20 million dollar purse isn't enough to get all the best players to be in each tournament, they are trying to figure out what will do that
the top guys have a shite load of money, a purse is not an attractant to the elite players.
its all major prep and scheduling around majors for them.
contraction for sure isn't the solution.
Posted on 6/4/26 at 9:56 am to CBandits82
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I don't understand, why do they want to play less golf?
what am I missing?
The feeling is that less is more. The NFL has 18 week regular season and everyone looks forward to it and are ready to watch. Before coming to the PGA, Brian Rolapp was responsible for the NFL's media businesses including digital media, NFL Network, advertising sales, NFL sponsorships, NFL media assets, television contracts, and digital media rights.
The thought is that less events with all the biggest names on the PGA will drive better ratings for those events. Rolapp is trying the NFL model with the PGA.
But the PGA will almost have to force the top tier players to play all those events.
I think that most hardcore PGA fans do not want less. They want to see a tournament almost every week and they want at least a few of the top tier players in each tournament. You won't get that with the new system.
This post was edited on 6/4/26 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 6/4/26 at 11:16 am to icegator337
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Lot of rumors floating around that Tier 1 guys won't be eligible to play tier 2 events.
I’m sure they will be discouraged, but if Scottie wants to show up to an event scottie is showing up. He’s more worried about his schedule than he is winning a tier 1 or 2 event.
Posted on 6/4/26 at 11:19 am to bstaceyau19
There won't be 3 of the big tournaments in Texas (especially 2 in the DFW area) or 3 + the Players in Florida.
The Players is definitely staying at Sawgrass - no question there.
Memorial and Pebble in some form) are definitely staying.
I can't see all 4 of Boston, NYC, Philadelphia, and DC all getting one - probably 2 - 3 of those 4, potentially on a rotating basis.
I think Toronto is likely going to get one, probably the Canadian.
The Players is definitely staying at Sawgrass - no question there.
Memorial and Pebble in some form) are definitely staying.
I can't see all 4 of Boston, NYC, Philadelphia, and DC all getting one - probably 2 - 3 of those 4, potentially on a rotating basis.
I think Toronto is likely going to get one, probably the Canadian.
Posted on 6/4/26 at 12:55 pm to CBandits82
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I don't understand, why do they want to play less golf?
what am I missing?
Because Tiger was Rolopp's main player advisor, and he played a limited schedule.
It's exactly what LIV did: create a tour around the likes and dislikes of a singer player, in their case Norman. This is a Tiger schedule.
I hope the players push back on this. Not all of them want to play a limited schedule.
Posted on 6/4/26 at 12:58 pm to AbuTheMonkey
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Memorial and Pebble in some form) are definitely staying.
Did you hear Jack yesterday? He was downright spicy at his presser for his standards. He usually takes the high ground but he damn near called out the PGA Tour before he stopped himself.
I think the Memorial is on the chopping block. Or the Tour has been trying to poach their sponsor away for another event.
Posted on 6/4/26 at 1:00 pm to bstaceyau19
They are clearly not going to demote Memorial or Pebble. I would be shocked. My guess is they will keep an event like the BMW (which *mostly* rotates between big metro areas as is) and have another event like that
Posted on 6/4/26 at 1:04 pm to DestrehanTiger
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If Chicago happens to be a great spot for a tournament, good, but don't force it.
The Western Open used to exist, but the organizing committee literally left Chicago.
Butler National didn't want to open up membership, so they were kicked out.
It was at Cog Hill for a while, but that ended in the 2000s.
Medinah and Olympia Fields don't want annual events, so the organizing committee has been on the road since 2006. (The BMW) They kept it as a roving event rather than find a permanent home in Chicago. What does that say?
Posted on 6/4/26 at 2:02 pm to bstaceyau19
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What does that say?
That if they tried to shoehorn Chicago into the season, it might have to be at a lower tier course. It seems none of the previous places either fit or want a tournament. That's how LIV ended up at a nothing course in Chicago. So, go to good courses that want the tournament. That's my argument.
This post was edited on 6/4/26 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 6/4/26 at 2:22 pm to bstaceyau19
Apparently Sahalee in Seattle is getting a look as well starting in 2028, which would be interesting.
Completely different from any other course on tour and would be pretty entertaining.
Completely different from any other course on tour and would be pretty entertaining.
Posted on 6/4/26 at 2:53 pm to DestrehanTiger
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This is just another example of why completely reconfiguring how the tour works will take time.
Is that really necessary? The Tour has enjoyed more success now than it ever has in its history.
Posted on 6/4/26 at 3:05 pm to usc6158
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Apparently Sahalee in Seattle is getting a look as well starting in 2028, which would be interesting.
Completely different from any other course on tour and would be pretty entertaining.
I do like that course. It's too bad the PGA only went there once.
Posted on 6/4/26 at 3:20 pm to bstaceyau19
It feels like professional golf is about as popular as it can be without a transcendent guy like Tiger.
No reason to rock that boat.
No reason to rock that boat.
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