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It’s Official: LIV and Phil nuked professional golf

Posted on 6/23/26 at 8:07 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111728 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 8:07 am
Just so fricking shite. All a way to keep funneling money to the top players more. This with the addition of PE is going to have the tour a shell of what it used to be. It’s going to shrink the overall footprint of pro golf in spades

This post was edited on 6/23/26 at 8:19 am
Posted by whichyalnoaboutseven
Metairie
Member since Dec 2009
2183 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 8:25 am to
Zurich is probably fricked. Top players not allowed to play in lower tier events which I’m assuming the Zurich will be
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111728 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 8:26 am to
Everything is fricked and Brian Fever Blister is going to take away other great events to put in sterile arse Miami and New York etc

If only we could thanos this and have Phil go to prison with insider trading and nothing ever changes in golf
This post was edited on 6/23/26 at 8:27 am
Posted by coolpapaboze
Parts Unknown
Member since Dec 2006
21948 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 8:33 am to
Weird for Mickelson to blow up the game and restructure incentives toward top players at a point where his career is/was basically over.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111728 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 8:35 am to
Phil always had a hard on saying the Tour should give more money to the more popular stars of the game. That was his vendetta
Posted by m57
Flyover Country
Member since May 2017
2608 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 8:43 am to
Yup all of the less noteworthy events just got torpedoed
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111728 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 8:44 am to
The Sentry
• Sony Open in Hawaii
• The American Express
• Farmers Insurance Open
• AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am
• WM Phoenix Open
• Genesis Invitational
• Mexico Open
• Cognizant Classic
• Puerto Rico Open
• Arnold Palmer Invitational
• Valspar Championship
• Texas Children’s Houston Open
• Valero Texas Open
• RBC Heritage
• Zurich Classic of New Orleans
• Cadillac Championship
• Truist Championship
• THE CJ CUP Byron Nelson
• Charles Schwab Challenge
• Memorial Tournament
• RBC Canadian Open
• Travelers Championship
• John Deere Classic
• Genesis Scottish Open
• 3M Open
• Rocket Classic
• Wyndham Championship
• FedEx St. Jude Championship
• BMW Championship
• TOUR Championship
• Biltmore Championship
• Bank of Utah Championship
• Baycurrent Classic
• Butterfield Bermuda Championship
• VidantaWorld Mexico Open
• World Wide Technology Championship
• Good Good Championship
• The RSM Classic

Only get to keep 18 of those events. FUBAR
Posted by MrSpock
Member since Sep 2015
5140 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 8:49 am to
Bye Eastlake
Posted by Rendevoustavern
Member since May 2018
1931 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 8:49 am to
I was just with a current PGA pro about a hour ago. His phone buzzed and got the word. To say he was pretty demoralized is an understatement.

Pretty tough situation for guys in his category of 15+ years of service, handful of wins, buy competing against this new wave of youngins has proven to be more difficult. Kids are popping up for a year or two and then fading off whereas he and some of his compadres have been on leaderboards for majority of their careers.

I get the change because the product as a whole has been somewhat stagnant but this is a pretty big blow to the guys who remained committed to the PGA tour during the LIV departure. Turning down 15-30m paydays only for the PGAT to reward its marquee players a few years later.

Tough day for these guys.
Posted by reauxl tigers
Tiger Woods Fan
Member since Aug 2014
10222 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 8:50 am to
I heard a rumor from a Zurich volunteer that they were considering rotating elevated events and that Zurich was possibly in that rotation. Just a rumor. Idk how this news would affect said rumor.
Posted by m57
Flyover Country
Member since May 2017
2608 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 8:56 am to
I imagine they’ll get one more year of the Fitzpatricks/Lowry and then 2028 will be crap.
Posted by BenDover
Member since Jul 2010
5569 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 9:04 am to
quote:

I get the change because the product as a whole has been somewhat stagnant but this is a pretty big blow to the guys who remained committed to the PGA tour during the LIV departure. Turning down 15-30m paydays only for the PGAT to reward its marquee players a few years later.

Tough day for these guys.


It is definitely tough for those guys but it was always going to be this way. PGA was essentially in a no-win situation when Phil pulled the LIV crap. If they didn't cater the response to the long-tenured, mid-level guys then they follow suit to LIV and the domino effect becomes catastrophic. Cater too long to the mid-level guys then the young up & comers, and the Tour elite, become googly-eyed at the Saudi money too.

Like in other areas of life, the middle class is the largest class, and they're also the ones left holding the bag.



Posted by icegator337
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2013
3747 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 9:05 am to
So the "challenger series" is basically the Korn Ferry Tour. Not sure if the pga tour noticed from LIV, but just making a tournaments purse bigger doesn't elevate the event.

This sucks
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
41432 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 9:17 am to
It would be so cool if sports execs of mid-tier professional leagues realized that they will never be the NFL/NBA/MLB and trying to will only serve to kill their product.


Can anyone point to a single league (in the modern era) that left/substantially shifted focus away from it's core demographic in favor of big media markets (NY/Miami/Boston/etc) and come out the other side in a better spot?

It seems like every time this is tried, the core fanbase falls off and isn't even close to being replaced by the new fans they are attempting to capture.

Posted by Tyga Woods
South Central Jupiter Island, FL
Member since Sep 2016
42497 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 9:19 am to
Did they do anything with the schedule? It sucks with the season pretty much being done by the end of July. Nobody cares about the playoffs.
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
9087 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 9:28 am to
Schedule will go through February through August with a match play playoff finale.

The top level will be 120 man tournaments with cuts and up to 30 players will be “relegated” and “promoted” at the end of each season.

I don’t see how it’s really that much more than codifying the existing signature event model?

Maybe in 4-5 years it’s a disaster, like NIL/transfers and college sports. But at least to me that seems like an actual attempt at creating a long term workable system based on a “signature event, you need all your big names playing the same events” model.
Posted by bstaceyau19
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2022
1465 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 9:30 am to
They are massively contracting the tour. There is no other way to describe it. This means that have a massive money problem. Borderline bankruptcy. It would be interesting if both tours enter bankruptcy at the same time. Imagine if the NFL contracted to 20 teams and a 10-game schedule. That's what this is.

LIV dies completely. The PGA eliminates half their events. Talk about woeful mismanagement. Jay Monahan has a lot to answer for. That stupid $20 Million an event signature event thing has made them damn near broke.
Posted by bstaceyau19
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2022
1465 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 9:32 am to
quote:

I don’t see how it’s really that much more than codifying the existing signature event model?


It's totally different.

Right now there are signature events and then other events. Under this plan there are signature events and that's it. The other events are eliminated.
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
9087 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 9:35 am to
I guess it depends on if you count the lower series as still the PGA tour. If you do then they aren’t eliminating half their events, they’re increasing the purses for 8 events from $9m to $20m and decreasing the purses for about 10 events from $9m to $4m.

They’re going to have two events on the same weekend about 8-9 times throughout the year. They may even overall increase the number of events.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111728 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 9:36 am to
quote:

guess it depends on if you count the lower series as still the PGA tour.
Who would? They are banning their top 120 players from playing those events
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