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re: Fluffing your lie

Posted on 7/30/23 at 1:59 pm to
Posted by bopper50
Sugarland Texas
Member since Mar 2009
9141 posts
Posted on 7/30/23 at 1:59 pm to
We play it down everywhere.

But we are pretty liberal with ground under repair.

Since covid, people forgot how to rake bunkers and fill divots.
Posted by Monahans
Member since Sep 2019
1250 posts
Posted on 7/30/23 at 2:02 pm to
If youre keeping a score for your hcp you should play it as it lies. I get sick of playing money games with guys who think you're being a stickler because you actually want to follow the rules. They get annoyed because all of a sudden their handicap doesnt match up with their ability to strike the ball.
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
8160 posts
Posted on 7/30/23 at 2:02 pm to
I was playing a few times a week and the occasional tournament before getting into a twice a week money game at the club. First few rounds of playing USGA rules was a little nerve wracking but within a few weeks I realized my scores and handicap were going down.

I wasn't playing any more/less, no recent lessons, no new clubs so it was pretty obvious, I played better golf when playing the ball down. I took a lesson a few weeks later and the first thing the club pro mentioned was my upper body was "quieter" and I was staying down better.

To each his own, you paid for the round, you do what you want, but if you haven't tried it, I encourage you to do so.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
15443 posts
Posted on 7/30/23 at 3:03 pm to
quote:

If youre keeping a score for your hcp you should play it as it lies.
I quit doing that about 10 years ago, haven’t played solo tournaments in probably 25 years.

I’ve played in a lot of solo tournaments.
Posted by MikeD
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
7243 posts
Posted on 7/30/23 at 10:43 pm to
Once you commit to playing it down it becomes a minor issue
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
15443 posts
Posted on 7/31/23 at 12:34 pm to
quote:

Once you commit to playing it down it becomes a minor issue
When you’ve been playing for 50 years it ceases to matter. At that point you’re just happy to be able to play
Posted by 053wab
Charlotte NC
Member since May 2023
149 posts
Posted on 7/31/23 at 12:55 pm to
You cannot fondle your ball.
Posted by slinger1317
Northshore
Member since Sep 2005
5856 posts
Posted on 7/31/23 at 2:44 pm to
I used to be a fluffer

Now I track my handicap and play everything as it lies, and I don't even flinch.

Try playing it down every shot, and after a few rounds you won't even notice it.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
34316 posts
Posted on 7/31/23 at 3:04 pm to
quote:

I don’t mind if a person does it but don’t talk
about what score you shoot.


So basically you're never going to talk to an amateur about their score? If I hit the fairway and I'm on hard pan and 1 foot away from me is nice grass, I'm going to hit from the good stuff.

Good for you though if you always play it down in a casual round. Let us know what happens in Q School.
Posted by Scottforeverlsu
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
977 posts
Posted on 7/31/23 at 4:01 pm to
Roll it over in the fairway, play it down in the rough. Also move it away from tree roots without giving a clear shot. Not looking to break a wrist.
Posted by zippyputt
Member since Jul 2005
5773 posts
Posted on 7/31/23 at 7:55 pm to
Why not tee it up, or throw/kick it closer, or gimme’s for 5 footers. I prefer to play by the rules. If you are doing that for fun, good for you. If we’re playing for money or in a tournament, better follow the rules. If its dangerous there’s a rule for that. If its unplayable, there’s a rule for that. If you can’t hit off the lie, there’s a driving range to practice.
Posted by fischd1
Mandeville
Member since Dec 2007
2827 posts
Posted on 7/31/23 at 8:26 pm to
Play it down in the rough and up in the fairway
Posted by MikeD
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
7243 posts
Posted on 7/31/23 at 10:11 pm to
quote:

Also move it away from tree roots without giving a clear shot.


Unplayable lie as an easy solution
Posted by Scottforeverlsu
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
977 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 9:00 am to
Yes, realize this... I'm talking about casual rounds with family and friends. Money games, of course it's unplayable
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
34316 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 9:06 am to
quote:

If you are doing that for fun, good for you. If we’re playing for money or in a tournament, better follow the rules.


I don't think anybody was talking about playing it up in a tournament Or any of the other things you mentioned for that matter.

I used to play in the City amateur twice a year so every round I played was down. Haven't played competitively (outside of scrambles) in 5-6 years. So yea, if I'm on hard pan in the fairway and good grass is a foot away, I'm hitting off the good stuff. Unless you know of some ranges that have a hard pan practice area. If my buddy did that, I can't imagine being that much of a douche to tell him not to do that in a casual round. I'd bust his balls if he used a legit foot wedge to improve his angle or adjust his ball in the sand though.
Posted by Monahans
Member since Sep 2019
1250 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 10:33 am to
One thing I do advocate for is for brand new golfers learning the game to give themselves the best lie on every shot. Just let them focus on making a decent swing with decent contact over and over again. Too many go out there and try to play from the junk then they don’t want to go back. Golf needs to promote the bunny slopes.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81642 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 10:35 am to
I have gone to playing it down. I struggle mentally with poor lies, so it's part of my training and I think it is helping me get over it. May be playing a scramble this weekend, and if so, it will be the first time I've played it up in two years.
Posted by yallallcrazy
Member since Oct 2007
762 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 2:04 pm to
My thinking is kind of the opposite of a lot of what you hear. People are always saying that since it is not the PGA tour or big money, they are going to roll the ball.
My feeling is that, since there’s really nothing riding on it, I’m just gonna just hit it where it is unless there is risk of injury to a club or me.

On the occasion that I’ve had a bad break during a “real” match I've been able to deal with it better. Various lies don’t bother me much anymore, and who cares if I shoot a stroke worse in a casual round? Besides, on casual rounds the biggest joy is pulling off a good shot, so there’s the satisfaction of hitting a good approach out of a divot or whatever.
Posted by bopper50
Sugarland Texas
Member since Mar 2009
9141 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 2:16 pm to
quote:

Once you commit to playing it down it becomes a minor issue



This.

Personally playing down helps me concentrate A lot more on the shot.

Fluffing your lie every time can make you lazy through the shot over time IMO.

Like I said above, ground under repair and with bad bunkers, my group is pretty liberal on that situation.
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
15867 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 2:40 pm to
quote:

I’m just gonna just hit it where it is unless there is risk of injury to a club or me.


This is rational.
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