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re: Weekly PC Gaming / Component discussion thread

Posted on 2/22/13 at 7:50 pm to
Posted by Klark Kent
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Posted on 2/22/13 at 7:50 pm to
should I give up and take it to microcenter and let them figure it out?

I needed a new gfx card anyhow, so I would've upgraded regardless. I talked to several computer hardware geeks friends of mine and they said gfx card too, fwiw.

it was my assumption as well.

So, Ohh wise Coyote Computer Genius Master Race pretentious One, tell me what my next move is....
This post was edited on 2/22/13 at 7:59 pm
Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Posted on 2/22/13 at 8:26 pm to
I would take it in. As much as you don't want to it is just easier sometimes.
Posted by Blitzed
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Posted on 2/22/13 at 8:28 pm to
You could buy a Mac.
Posted by dcrews
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Posted on 2/22/13 at 9:28 pm to
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I needed a new gfx card anyhow, so I would've upgraded regardless. I talked to several computer hardware geeks friends of mine and they said gfx card too, fwiw.


I just bought a Radeon 7850 (2gig on board ram) and I love it. Per Tom's Hardware, it's the best card on the market around the $200 range.
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 2/23/13 at 2:16 am to
Whoever you spoke with who said gpu also was not very knowledgable. You can do tests that rule out gpu failure rather easily. Motherboard and ram issues for me are the most frustrating and hardest to figure out.
Posted by LSU Coyote
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Posted on 2/23/13 at 2:18 am to
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Ohh wise Coyote Computer Genius Master Race pretentious One, tell me what my next move is....

Did you try posting without any anything in the pci slots and going through the MOBO DVI/VGA/HDMI ports?

Also try flashing the MOBO bios with updated bios. Your manufactor should have a tool to do so on their website.
This post was edited on 2/23/13 at 10:03 am
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 2/23/13 at 2:23 am to
I told him it was the graphics, I don't know why I come off as unkowledgable since it's definitely not the mobo (CPU fan runs when it is turned on). It was either the graphics or RAM, and since he was wanting to up it anyway, I told him to go ahead and try it out.
Posted by brucevilanch
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Member since May 2011
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Posted on 2/23/13 at 8:03 am to
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Whoever you spoke with who said gpu also was not very knowledgable.


quote:

I told him it was the graphics


This post was edited on 2/23/13 at 8:03 am
Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Posted on 2/23/13 at 8:42 am to
Posted by LSU Coyote
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Posted on 2/23/13 at 10:01 am to
quote:

Posted by bluebarracuda on 2/23 at 2:23 am to LSU Coyote I told him it was the graphics, I don't know why I come off as unkowledgable since it's definitely not the mobo (CPU fan runs when it is turned on). It was either the graphics or RAM, and since he was wanting to up it anyway, I told him to go ahead and try it out.

I know you know what is going on blue. Lol

Just gpus rarely come DoA. Most likely RAM or vent pins.

Did you guys try to post via MOBO display ports though?

ETA:
From that reasoning though if he was going to upgrade no big deal.. He better keep that 650ti!

Also Klark, unslot your CPU and take a picture of the pins on the board if intel and pins on the CPU if amd. We can then go from there.
This post was edited on 2/23/13 at 10:07 am
Posted by Azazello
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 2/23/13 at 10:36 am to
Hey guys, I have a couple of OC questions.

I have an i3570k and this is the first time I am OC this processor.

Right now, I am using this guide here.

It seems like every guide that I have seen on the i3570k and the z77 is different.

I have seen numerous different ways to OC, with some guides saying to disable turbo boost, or some (like the one I am using), leave it turned on.

Right now I am at 4.4Ghz, 1.064V, high 60's under load.
Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Posted on 2/23/13 at 11:09 am to
To follow up our convo about the 8350 last night I did some more research on the internet. There seem to be a lot of varying results between the 5370k and the 8350. Sounds like either way you are making a good decision.
This is just one of the sources I looked at
What I am having trouble justifying is why spend all the extra money for a 3770k. Everything I see has them so close together. I also don't know how well these different processors do in SLI or Xfire.
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 2/23/13 at 11:33 am to
Gaming they are all close but multitasking and CPU heavy applications the 3770 drowns them in a pool of shame.

For the 200 price point you can't go wrong with a 8350 or 3570k.
Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Posted on 2/23/13 at 11:36 am to
When I said that I meant for gaming. Of course there are many other things you can do with it but all I do is game.
Posted by VABuckeye
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Posted on 2/23/13 at 11:46 am to
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Gaming they are all close but multitasking and CPU heavy applications the 3770 drowns them in a pool of shame


Yep. I went with a 3770K because it's $229 at the local MicroCenter. No brainer for me.
Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Posted on 2/23/13 at 11:50 am to
You and your microcenter deals making the rest of us jealous
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 2/23/13 at 11:52 am to
Im gonna try your suggestion of taking everything from pci out first. I did add a new wireless card last week.

They'll I pull the CPU cooler and fan off to get a pic.


Sorry for being an arse yesterday, shite is frustrating. Put all this money in and it just output nothing. sigh
Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Posted on 2/23/13 at 11:55 am to
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Sorry for being an arse yesterday, shite is frustrating. Put all this money in and it just output nothing. sigh

I would act much worse.
Posted by VABuckeye
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Posted on 2/23/13 at 12:01 pm to
You'll get it. Stay patient. Double check all your power connections. More often than not a problem like this is because a card isn't fully seated or a power connection isn't clicked all the way down or one is missing.

One of the other guys built a PC earlier in the year and his graphics didn't work because the video card required two power connections and he only plugged one in.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
75121 posts
Posted on 2/23/13 at 12:07 pm to
quote:

One of the other guys built a PC earlier in the year and his graphics didn't work because the video card required two power connections and he only plugged one in.


mine also requires 2, but when I initially installed it I made sure it had 2 power connections. I wish it was that tho
This post was edited on 2/23/13 at 12:08 pm
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