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Posted on 1/30/14 at 8:44 pm to
Posted by KingwoodLsuFan
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 1/30/14 at 8:44 pm to
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Why dont you pick ashe?

I'm more comfortable with other adcs. Ashe would probably be my 6th adc behind Sivir, Twitch, varus, cait, and graves.
Posted by Greace
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 1/30/14 at 8:48 pm to
C9 used ashe when there was no jinx or lucian big difference
Posted by Greace
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 1/30/14 at 8:52 pm to
shes pretty much useless. I mean theres no character in the game thats completely useless
Posted by KingwoodLsuFan
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 1/30/14 at 9:05 pm to
quote:

shes pretty much useless. I mean theres no character in the game thats completely useless

Shes not useless shes just like other chars who aren't a part of the meta right now. I've already said what benefits she brings to the table and can be an asset to a team.

Posted by Greace
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 1/30/14 at 9:06 pm to
Shes the worst adc.
Posted by KingwoodLsuFan
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 1/30/14 at 9:10 pm to
your entitled to your opinion bud
Posted by Greace
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 1/30/14 at 9:20 pm to
Your entitled to yours too but more people seem to agree with mine.
Posted by Taffeta
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 1/30/14 at 10:36 pm to


I will agree Ashe isn't the #1 adc, but she isn't the worst...
This post was edited on 1/30/14 at 10:37 pm
Posted by Greace
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 1/30/14 at 10:40 pm to
You realize that any character in the game works with 25 kills right?
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
32130 posts
Posted on 1/30/14 at 11:37 pm to
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So they're saying Ashe is strong


Who is saying she is strong? We are just saying she isn't garbage. But if you guys are THAT deep into TSM and C9's arse that you only think who they play is viable, then go ahead.

Ashe is not a dominant ADC, but she isn't trash either. Just bc you can't play her correctly, doesn't mean she isn't useful.

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I'm not saying Ashe is better then every adc but to say she is useless is laughable.


Jesus....thank you!

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but more people seem to agree with mine.


And more people are wrong.

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Everyone seems to forget C9 using Ashe with great success last season to dominate games.


It doesn't matter. If the pros aren't using a champ, then they are complete useless trash and need to be taken out of the game.

C9 could play a character that looks like a dog turd and whose only abilities are suicide and people on here would rave about how much better that champ is than everyone else.
This post was edited on 1/30/14 at 11:45 pm
Posted by LSUSaintsHornets
Based Pelican
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 1/30/14 at 11:41 pm to
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You realize that any character in the game works with 25 kills right?

25 kill Raka OP as frick.
Posted by Greace
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 12:10 am to
Im convinced you are now trolling.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 12:26 am to
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Im convinced you are now trolling.
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
12156 posts
Posted on 1/31/14 at 8:39 am to
What do you think of sivir, vayne, and jinx?

Matchups, lanes, what are good teams to pick for/against or to not pick?
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
32130 posts
Posted on 1/31/14 at 8:47 am to
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Im convinced you are now trolling.


Yes and no

I still contend that saying Ashe is completely useless is laughable, but to each their own.

It does annoy me though, that a lot of people think that if TSM, C9, etc... aren't using a champ, then they are absolute useless garbage.

Obviously some champs are much more viable and better than others. And I'm not saying Ashe is top tier or that she can out 1v1 a lot of other champs...hell I'm not even saying she is better than Jinx. But to say she is totally useless just seems so asinine to me.





Posted by Korali
Member since Nov 2013
1218 posts
Posted on 1/31/14 at 9:57 am to
the thing about Ashe is that she's a terrible laner. When the most popular marksmen right now are huge bullies (Lucian, Draven, Sivir) it causes huge problems for her.

Tack on the fact that she's jungle food with zero form of escape other than her built in CC in addition to the other fact that she doesn't have the late game damage to back the lack of escape up.

That being said she's still a good pick. If you're doing 5's in Silvers or with a team and your comp revolves around her, by all means play Ashe.
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
32130 posts
Posted on 1/31/14 at 10:13 am to
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That being said she's still a good pick. If you're doing 5's in Silvers or with a team and your comp revolves around her, by all means play Ashe.


Agreed. Maybe it's because I'm playing premades with 3+ friends every game that my opinion is different.

Buddy of mine mains Ashe as an ADC and we usually do pretty well bot lane, especially during ganks (both enemy and ours) with her slowing abilities.

I'm also pretty loose with my role as and ADC. I take what the other team gives me, also taking into consideration the champ I'm playing.

As Ashe, I'm content letting the lane get slightly pushed to my side and out farming the oppoent waiting for them to get out of position (which they always do bc they think Ashe is a non threat.)

Can't tell you how many times her frost shot and volley have secured kills on champs running away.

Posted by Greace
Member since May 2009
4838 posts
Posted on 1/31/14 at 10:26 am to
I mean totally useless is an exaggeration. But there are so many better picks. All I play is Adc and I havent picked Ashe in months. I normally play with a group of 4 or 5 people. And theres almost no reason to ever need that much Slow or CC from the adc when you have somebody who deals 10x the damage she does. Shes a Utility ADC who has been left behind in the Meta. Before Jinx/Lucian she could contend because the role was so wide open. Now the role is pigeonholed into people who can kill the tanks or people who can stay safe enough while doing damage. Ashe frost shot is nice but with the way the current tank items work and the current tops (Mundo/Shyvana) frost shot isn't enough to stop them from just eating you alive.
This post was edited on 1/31/14 at 10:27 am
Posted by Korali
Member since Nov 2013
1218 posts
Posted on 1/31/14 at 10:29 am to
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As Ashe, I'm content letting the lane get slightly pushed to my side and out farming the oppoent waiting for them to get out of position (which they always do bc they think Ashe is a non threat.)


That's the thing though. Most of the time the only way you're going to take advantage of the enemy misplaying is if you're coordinated with your team Which from Bronze V-Diamond III solo queue is a lot to ask for.
Posted by Greace
Member since May 2009
4838 posts
Posted on 1/31/14 at 10:33 am to
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That's the thing though. Most of the time the only way you're going to take advantage of the enemy misplaying is if you're coordinated with your team Which from Bronze V-Diamond III solo queue is a lot to ask for.



Definitely this.
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