re: Official League of Legends Thread

Caitlyn is a farm type of ADC she does fairly well early and then does come back around again at the end of the game. I mean if your just looking to take advantage of people. Draven hurts. Really really badly. If you can get a good trade off at level 1 you pretty much auto win the lane. And having seen a couple people play against me without armor runes on the ADC or the Support Draven hurts that much more. Its not unusual for Draven to two shot a sona at level 1.

Imo Ezreal is lower than that and Graves is definitely atleast Tier C. Tristana is probably Tier A. She just scales so well and shes extremely safe.

Edit: Whats your IGN?

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Tier S - Jinx
Tier A - Sivir
Tier B - Vayne
Tier C - Ashe

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I got one in each.

I played Cait for a week when she was free. I didn't really liked her that much. Her range and net was pretty neat, but her ult gets easily obstructed. The traps didn't seem to help me CC at all.

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This is how I see ADC tier lists right now for solo queue.

Tier S
Lucian, Jinx

Tier A
Sivir, Draven, Caitlyn

Tier B
Ezreal, Tristana, Vayne, Varus,

Tier C
Kog'Maw, Ashe

Everything Else Tier
Don't bother unless you're damn good at one of these.

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I agree with this list the thing with Lucian though is he has a high learning curve and is usually played pretty badly in lower elos. I would take kog maw out of tier C and put Twitch.
As far as to what Mahootney was asking earlier I think
Jinx is the strongest ADC in the game with great pushing, wave clearing, tower killing, Poking, AS steroid, range, Global execute ult, and cleanup potential with her passive.

Sivir is the best support adc in the game who can create a lot of opportunities with her ultimate
She has the best wave clear out of all the adcs.

Vayne is the best at dealing with very tanky teams and will destroy teamfights if she isn't dealt with quickly.

Both Vayne and Sivir can have a tough laning phases because both have very small range and can get bullied by the other adc. Especially vayne who doesn't have anything like a spell shield so once she gets cced by like a leona or thresh she is done.

Sivirs main con is that if she falls behind it is very hard to come back into the game.

Jinxes only problem is that she needs her team to peel very well or get a kill so she can get her speedboost because her getaway moves are very weak and can be caught easier then other adcs.

As far as lanes go all these ad's do well with the current meta of all in high damage supports like Annie, Thresh, and Leona.

Matchup's you can pretty much put any other ad against vayne and sivir. For Jinx I would pick Lucian,Cait,or Draven, and maybe Varus.

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That being said she's still a good pick. If you're doing 5's in Silvers or with a team and your comp revolves around her, by all means play Ashe.

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Exactly what I said in my first post on this subject. Only good in premade.

Used to hate playing against draven, but if you get a good support, you can zone him out pretty well. Now I love seeing him.

I've been playing a good bit of support teemo lately.

Hybrid Pen reds
Armor yellows
AP blues
AP Quints

Wind up with with some good pen, ~26 AP and some armor. With his Q (blind) and the AP gold generating item, he does nasty damage early. After 6, the shrooms just ensure that anyone ganking is coming into the fight slowly and without full HP. I generally always go sightstone as a support, but with teemo, I tend to buy maybe one ward once I go back (after 6) and just use shrooms (plus my trinket) to keep vision where I need it.

As for Caitlyn, her ult can be frustrating, but it's a God send when you're chasing someone who is much faster than you with very little hp.

Her traps are awesome IMO. Help out with keeping some sort of presence in river/tri-bush/side bush, and can force an enemy out of position while farming if place correctly.

Her Q falls off as the game goes on, but it's useful early game. Her net is good as well. Sort of a "mini flash" if you will.

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Exactly what I said in my first post on this subject. Only good in premade.

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Pretty much all I play, so maybe that's why I'm so staunch in my position

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There isn't a ADC alive that can zone draven

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That's been the problem with this particular debate all along. Everyone is comparing adc's straight up against one another when in actuality, they are very rarely alone 1v1, or at least not that I've seen. They are either teamfighting or have a support with them.

During the laning phase, I make it a point poke him down, especially if his support isn't doing their job and keeping us off him. Any adc with poke can either force draven to miss an axe or make him pay for catching it.

Conversely, my bot lane teammate and I have started harassing the support down to the point that they either have to back or be killed. Either way, without that support their, Draven is easily zoned out or forced to not catch his axes.

Can we talk about mid/top now? I feel like we have been on this Adc thing for too damn long.

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Being a melee in mid just hurts so much.

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Zed disagrees. It's just a different playstyle. You have to make them respect you. It's either harass or be harassed.

Gragas W makes last hitting easy at early levels. And then late game his barrels just one shot waves. I put Gragas as one of the top champions in the game