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Posted on 1/30/14 at 6:58 pm to
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 1/30/14 at 6:58 pm to
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Ashe is a pretty safe laner, and has way more range than quinn.
She does, but Quinn also has a blind and a gap closer. Ashe could literally do nothing when blinded.
Posted by LSUSaintsHornets
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Posted on 1/30/14 at 7:00 pm to
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She does, but Quinn also has a blind and a gap closer. Ashe could literally do nothing when blinded.

She W's and walks away. Ashe scales terrible but she is hard to bully in lane.
Posted by Greace
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Posted on 1/30/14 at 7:00 pm to
I dont know.. Lee sin is blind and he does alot.
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 1/30/14 at 7:05 pm to
Get out.
Posted by dcrews
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Posted on 1/30/14 at 7:39 pm to
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Ashe could literally do nothing when blinded.




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She W's and walks away. Ashe scales terrible but she is hard to bully in lane.


At least someone is using their head.

Funny thing is, people think they can just bully Ashe easily in lane. They trade with her, then realize she is hitting harder than they thought. They go to walk away, but oh wait, they are moving slowly. Why is that? Oh, that's right, Ashe's frost shot is making you an easy target for the incoming jungler and support.

If you go in an ashe, you had better kill her, because you can't run away, you'll be walking and extremely vulnerable.
This post was edited on 1/30/14 at 7:40 pm
Posted by Greace
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Posted on 1/30/14 at 7:57 pm to
Im using my head... Ashe is really bad. My head is telling me that. Alot of other people are telling me that. Everything I read is telling me that. Not sure why you are so convinced shes not bad
Posted by KingwoodLsuFan
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 1/30/14 at 7:58 pm to
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Quinn would destroy an Ashe. Quinn would win that lane so hard early, Ashe would never come back.

Actually the bot lane is usually dictated by the supports early especially if you have a thresh or leona on your team. Ashe can lane just fine against Quinn and can open up easy gank opportunities with her ult. in a 1v1 fight quinn would easily win but ashes kit is mostly for the team to capitalize off of.
Posted by Greace
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Posted on 1/30/14 at 8:01 pm to
Quinns pretty strong. But I mean what Adc would lose if they had a 3v2?
This post was edited on 1/30/14 at 8:01 pm
Posted by KingwoodLsuFan
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Posted on 1/30/14 at 8:07 pm to
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Quinns pretty strong. But I mean what Adc would lose if they had a 3v2?

That's the whole point ashe can create opportunities for easy ganks with her ult. She ults and slows somebody from getting away to get easy kills for her team.
Posted by Hulkklogan
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Posted on 1/30/14 at 8:08 pm to
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Im using my head... Ashe is really bad. My head is telling me that. Alot of other people are telling me that. Everything I read is telling me that. Not sure why you are so convinced shes not bad



I think Ashe needs a rework and she's definitely not the strongest ADC, but I think she's still viable. I just think her kit is dated.
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 1/30/14 at 8:10 pm to
So they're saying Ashe is strong because she can setup a gank. That's not what counters are set up for. The only thing you take into account is what one adc can do against another adc in a head to head matchup. Of course an adc setting up a 3v2 fight would clearly have the advantage. The point is that Ashe gets outscaled by nearly every adc and brings nothing to the table that another adc doesn't bring in a better form. Every other adc is a better option to Ashe's kit.
Posted by Greace
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Posted on 1/30/14 at 8:11 pm to
Okay. Jinx does the same thing with W/E. Urgot does it even better with ult. Varus does it with E and R too. Vayne just plays better with a gank. Theres a freaking reason shes never picked. And its not because shes hidden op.
Posted by Greace
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Posted on 1/30/14 at 8:13 pm to
Shes viable yes.. As in she can be picked but theres almost no reason to even pick her.
Posted by KingwoodLsuFan
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 1/30/14 at 8:22 pm to
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The only thing you take into account is what one adc can do against another adc in a head to head matchup

I completely disagree with this statement. The lane phase in bot lane is more dictated by the supports.
quote:

So they're saying Ashe is strong because she can setup a gank.

Somebody that can start engagements and set up easy ganks can be a great asset for a team. You kill one person out of position and it snowballs into towers, dragons, barons, and possibly more kills for people trying to come save the person that was caught. If ashe hits the right person for a teamfight like the enemy adc it can easily turn the teamfight into your favor.
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 1/30/14 at 8:23 pm to
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The point is that Ashe gets outscaled by nearly every adc and brings nothing to the table that another adc doesn't bring in a better form. Every other adc is a better option to Ashe's kit.


I agree.

Jinx kit is what Ashe's kit should aspire to be more like.
Posted by Greace
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Posted on 1/30/14 at 8:24 pm to
Okay.. how often do you play bot lane?
Posted by KingwoodLsuFan
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Posted on 1/30/14 at 8:36 pm to
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Okay. Jinx does the same thing with W/E. Urgot does it even better with ult. Varus does it with E and R too. Vayne just plays better with a gank. Theres a freaking reason shes never picked. And its not because shes hidden op.

Everyone seems to forget C9 using Ashe with great success last season to dominate games.

Urgots ult is nice but in a teamfight is hard to use because it will usually put him out of position.

Varus E is essentially used for more damage and to pop markers. As a chase down tool it is very weak.
Varus R is a great Ult it is just harder to land on a squishy target and is not global.

Jinx W and E are nice but they aren't used to set up teamfights like Ashes ult.

I'm not saying Ashe is better then every adc but to say she is useless is laughable.
Posted by KingwoodLsuFan
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 1/30/14 at 8:37 pm to
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Okay.. how often do you play bot lane?

Very often I'm gold 1 right now with my mains being sivir and renekton
Posted by Greace
Member since May 2009
4838 posts
Posted on 1/30/14 at 8:38 pm to
Why dont you pick ashe?
Posted by DumpsterFire
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/30/14 at 8:40 pm to
My Ashe owns Bronze

2-0 ranked in s4
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