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re: Is Net Nutrality about to be gone?
Posted on 11/21/17 at 7:52 pm to LSU Coyote
Posted on 11/21/17 at 7:52 pm to LSU Coyote
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The guy is a Food & Drink,
Starting today because of thanksgiving. But that's some mighty fine forum stalking you've been doing
ETA: I need to tell DisplacedBuckeye to come over here. He'd have a field day with you guys
This post was edited on 11/21/17 at 7:54 pm
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Posted on 11/21/17 at 7:54 pm to Centinel
quote:If you're claiming it was done "as a courtesy" then obviously it wasn't stipulated in the original contract so they could have just let the connections bottleneck and still be perfectly within their terms. They didn't do it because there was no money to be made at the time. As soon as the contract was up they saw $$$$$. Throttled the frick out of Netflix at the expense of hundreds of thousands of people's experiences and forced more compensation for themselves. This is a picture perfect example of the experience we as customers are going to have under this structure.
Do you understand how a contract works?
This post was edited on 11/21/17 at 7:56 pm
Posted on 11/21/17 at 7:56 pm to Drewbie
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As soon as the contract was up they saw $$$$$.
No, they negotiated the new contract to reflect the increase need to provide this courtesy to NetFlix.
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Throttled the frick out of Netflix at the expense of hundreds of thousands of people's expenses and forced more compensation for themselves.
That's how businesses operate. NetFlix is at fault here.
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This is a picture perfect example of the experience we as customers are going to have under this structure.
So the ISP should have just kept providing this increased burden on their network without compensation?
Posted on 11/21/17 at 7:57 pm to Centinel
Pretty sure we found Chairman Pai's TD account.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 7:58 pm to Drewbie
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If you're claiming it was done "as a courtesy" then obviously it wasn't stipulated in the original contract so they could have just let the connections bottleneck and still be perfectly within their terms. They didn't do it because there was no money to be made at the time. As soon as the contract was up they saw $$$$$. Throttled the frick out of Netflix at the expense of hundreds of thousands of people's experiences and forced more compensation for themselves. This is a picture perfect example of the experience we as customers are going to have under this structure.
Just stop... It's pointless to try to talk sense into the guy the said this earlier:
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You missed my whole point though - we don't live in a world that needs speeds from 1996, we live in a world that needs speeds from 2017.
Those aren't needs. Those are wants.
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We have Netflix, we have Youtube, we have Apple Music, etc. etc.
Wants, not needs.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 7:58 pm to Drewbie
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Pretty sure we found Chairman Pai's TD account.
That dude is a slimeball. It just happens to be the case that the slimeball is correct this time.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 7:58 pm to BaddestAndvari
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Just stop... It's pointless to try to talk sense into the guy the said this earlier:
I notice you never actually addressed my points.
Funny that.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 8:05 pm to Centinel
Well folks it's been fun. I really do recommend you visit the poliboard when it comes to subjects like this.
It also helps if you have your own arguments instead of regurgitating posts on social media from people who also don't understand the subject at hand.
I recommend you start with the original Title II legislation and why it exists, and various technical subjects such as peering, Content Delivery Networks (CDNs), etc. and the state and local ISP laws.
If you finish that, start digging in to Google and Amazon and the reach they have. They should scare you far more than even the biggest ISP.
ISPs aren't your friend. Content providers aren't your friend. And the government damn sure isn't your friend.
It also helps if you have your own arguments instead of regurgitating posts on social media from people who also don't understand the subject at hand.
I recommend you start with the original Title II legislation and why it exists, and various technical subjects such as peering, Content Delivery Networks (CDNs), etc. and the state and local ISP laws.
If you finish that, start digging in to Google and Amazon and the reach they have. They should scare you far more than even the biggest ISP.
ISPs aren't your friend. Content providers aren't your friend. And the government damn sure isn't your friend.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 8:06 pm to Centinel
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I notice you never actually addressed my points.
Funny that.
You think office 365, Chromebooks, sas online, Citrix receiver, more than 5kb attachments on email, Skype, FaceTime, webx, Netflix, YouTube, and so many more online dependent applications that take more than 100kbps are a "want" not a "need" . There is literally no fricking "point" to address. You are either a troll or a completely ignorant human being that deserves 0 more attention.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 8:11 pm to Drewbie
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Throttling the shite out of customers to squeeze more money out of them? Yeah that's exactly why we don't want this. Keep thinking about it. Maybe you'll realize what's going on by next year.
I really am keeping tabs of these people empowering this, and a simple “I was wrong” will suffice as an apology. I can’t believe anyone is dumb enough to trust anything Comcast says.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 8:14 pm to Centinel
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I recommend you start with the original Title II legislation and why it exists, and various technical subjects such as peering, Content Delivery Networks (CDNs), etc. and the state and local ISP laws.
We have... 3yrs ago when going through this same BS.
My concern is the possibility of tiered packages which will come even if you do not believe it won't.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 8:15 pm to LSU Coyote
shhhh, he's leaving, let the idiot go.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 8:16 pm to OMLandshark
quote:Or the former lawyer of fricking Verizon. The only way he could be worse is if he was a car salesman on the side.
I can’t believe anyone is dumb enough to trust anything Comcast says.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 8:16 pm to DoUrden
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shhhh, he's leaving, let the idiot go.
"If you like your cable company you will love what they do with the internet"
Posted on 11/21/17 at 8:58 pm to DoUrden
Thanks Trump.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:02 pm to Centinel
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But the more interesting question is why. Answer that and you answer the actual issue we have in this country with ISP competition.
Because ISP joint users on utility poles (ATT, etc.) are not complying to utility agreements by not completing the necessary make-ready work to allow other companies, like Google, to attach.
Google is basically getting railroaded.
This post was edited on 11/21/17 at 11:04 pm
Posted on 11/22/17 at 8:41 am to taylork37
Can we atleast get OP to fix his title? Its driving me "Nuts".
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