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Posted on 11/21/17 at 7:34 pm to Centinel
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Wants, not needs.
How is your abacus and manual typewriter working for you.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 7:34 pm to LSU Coyote
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Wtf..
Do you not understand the difference between a want and a need?
I can help you out if you don't.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 7:34 pm to Centinel
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Do you not understand the difference between a want and a need?
I can help you out if you don't.
What board this this guy come from?
Posted on 11/21/17 at 7:35 pm to DoUrden
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How is your abacus and manual typewriter working for you.
I didn't realize a netflix stream was needed for communication or business?
Posted on 11/21/17 at 7:35 pm to Centinel
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We have Netflix, we have Youtube, we have Apple Music, etc. etc.
Wants, not needs.
Well that just happened
Posted on 11/21/17 at 7:36 pm to BaddestAndvari
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Well that just happened
Feel free to point out where I'm incorrect.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 7:36 pm to Centinel
quote:You do know what "allowing" means right? They had previously taken steps to ensure stable speeds beforehand, they entered negotiations, they all of a sudden quit trying as hard. Yet this isn't on the ISP's? Delusional. This is literally throttling.
the ISPs were allowing for Netflix traffic to bottleneck
This post was edited on 11/21/17 at 7:38 pm
Posted on 11/21/17 at 7:37 pm to DoUrden
quote:The senior citizen board.
What board this this guy come from?
This post was edited on 11/21/17 at 7:38 pm
Posted on 11/21/17 at 7:38 pm to Drewbie
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You do know what "allowing" means right? They had previously taken steps to ensure stable speeds beforehand, they entered negotiations, they all of a sudden quit trying as hard. Yet this isn't on the ISP's? Delusional.
Did you miss the part about opening ports as a courtesy?
Go read up a bit about how peering works. The base term being "peer".
Pro-Tip: Netflix wasn't a peer. Yet expected to be treated like one.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 7:39 pm to Centinel
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We have Netflix, we have Youtube, we have Apple Music, etc. etc.
Wants, not needs.
Well that just happened
Feel free to point out where I'm incorrect.
Oh no, this argument is over, there is nothing else to say to you. We both made our points, and yours came in loud and clear. You fully support internet speeds from 20 years ago as the norm, and I feel we should not live in the past.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 7:39 pm to Drewbie
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The senior citizen board.
You're probably older than I am
Posted on 11/21/17 at 7:40 pm to Centinel
quote:An ISP literally admits to not taking steps they'd taken in the past to secure stable connections for their users because of contract negotiations but to you that's not ISP's throttling connections. Also basic internet usage is a privilege... Even though we pay for it... K.
Did you miss the part about opening ports as a courtesy?
Posted on 11/21/17 at 7:40 pm to BaddestAndvari
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You fully support internet speeds from 20 years ago as the norm,
No I don't.
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and I feel we should not live in the past.
Neither do I. Like living in the past by using regulation from the early 1900s for utilities to regulate ISPs.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 7:41 pm to Drewbie
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An ISP literally admits to not taking steps they'd taken in the past to secure stable connections for their users because of contract negotiations but to you that's not ISP's throttling connections
Yup. You missed the part about opening ports as a courtesy. And you clearly do not understand peering.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 7:45 pm to Centinel
quote:When the contract wasn't an issue. The ISP's started acting like entitled bitches just because they could. There wasn't a word out of any ISP about having to open extra ports for Netflix at any point until the contract was expired. It was just the massive ISP making a power move on Netflix, throttling customers in the process. There's your free market.
You missed the part about opening ports as a courtesy.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 7:49 pm to DoUrden
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What board this this guy come from?
His argument about wants and needs.
The required bandwidth for applications now are higher and lower latency for laetrile utility applications is a must. Wants vs needs? It is come to the point of NEEDS now. We aren't living off the grid in North Alabama.
The guy is a Food & Drink, PT and SEC Rant board poster. He just likes to argue. Please move on.
This post was edited on 11/21/17 at 7:51 pm
Posted on 11/21/17 at 7:50 pm to Drewbie
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There wasn't a word out of any ISP about having to open extra ports for Netflix at any point until the contract was expired.
Do you understand how a contract works?
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It was just the massive ISP making a power move on Netflix, throttling customers in the process. There's your free market.
It was the massive ISP wanting compensation for doing something that before they did as a courtesy and received a courtesy in kind.
Netflix couldn't return this courtesy and increasingly kept needing this courtesy provided as they ramped up their streaming content. Therefore compensation was requested for the next contract.
That is 100% free market.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 7:51 pm to LSU Coyote
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The required bandwidth for applications now are higher and lower latency for laetrile utility applications is a must.
Such as?
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It is come to the point of NEEDS now.
Such as?
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