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Why doesn't everyone make a gumbo roux hot and fast like Paul Prudhomme? *Pics on Page 2*

Posted on 12/8/22 at 9:36 pm
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
79144 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 9:36 pm
What are the dangers of this aside from the obvious that's its easier to burn?

Making my first gumbo and really don't want to spend 30 mins to an hour stirring. Would even consider a dry oven roux due to the extremely low active cooking time and seemingly foolproof nature of the method.

Made homemade chicken stock tonight from two deboned chicken carcasses. Planning on making gumbo tomorrow for dinner by following Paul's recipe.

What am I missing?
This post was edited on 12/9/22 at 7:15 pm
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
91991 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 9:42 pm to
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What am I missing?


The process.
Posted by Trout Bandit
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2012
14443 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 9:49 pm to
I've been making rouxs like his for years. My dad taught me when I started cooking and I've never had any problems with it. The way I look at it...browned flour is browned flour no matter how long it takes.
Posted by BlackCoffeeKid
Member since Mar 2016
12500 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 9:50 pm to
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that's its easier to burn?

The flip side of this is that you don't spend 30min babying it and then burn it by accident.
If you burn it, at least it's relatively soon.
Posted by ChEgrad
Member since Nov 2012
3558 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 9:54 pm to
My wife did the fast roux successfully for years. She has done the oven roux and now she usually does a roux in the microwave.

They all work well.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171891 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 10:16 pm to
I always do. My roux is done in 15 minutes max. Usually it's about 10.

If you keep it moving, it will not burn. People are so dramatic about it. You even have enough time to leave it and grab your beer on the opposite counter without it burning.
This post was edited on 12/8/22 at 10:18 pm
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
79144 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 10:19 pm to
Why do people use a metal whisk on a cast iron pan?
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171891 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 10:20 pm to
Idk, I use a flat wooden spoon. Surface area is key. You can move a lot easier with a flat utensil.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
79144 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 10:21 pm to
Thanks!
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171891 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 10:24 pm to


Don't stress it, just keep it moving, doesn't have to be fast or anything. And have your hood vent on high, burner on medium high to high, just depends on how confident you feel.

Like someone else said, if it burns, you wasted 5-10 minutes, not an hour.
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
11956 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 11:20 pm to
I make it fast. I didn't know people spent 30 minutes to an hour making it.
Posted by Gris Gris
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 12/8/22 at 11:28 pm to
How much are you making ?
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
79144 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 11:52 pm to
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How much are you making ?


Using this ingredient list:

1 chicken, 3 to 4 pounds, cut into serving pieces

Salt to taste if desired

1 teaspoon finely ground black pepper

1 ¼ teaspoons finely ground white pepper

1 teaspoon powdered mustard

1 ½ teaspoons cayenne pepper

1 ½ teaspoons paprika

1 teaspoon granulated garlic

1 teaspoon file powder, optional

1 ½ cups flour

2 ½ cups corn, peanut or vegetable oil

¾ cup finely chopped onion

¾ cup finely chopped celery

¾ cup finely chopped green pepper

9 cups chicken broth

1 ¾ cups chopped or thinly sliced smoked sausage such as andouille or kielbasa

1 bay leaf

1 teaspoon finely minced fresh garlic

2 cups cooked rice
Posted by gerald65
Moss Bluff, LA
Member since Jul 2020
710 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 1:07 am to
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My wife did the fast roux successfully for years. She has done the oven roux and now she usually does a roux in the microwave.

They all work well.


I mostly make my roux in the microwave. It only take 2 or 3 minutes of time, which allows you to be doing other food prep/cooking stuff. Using the micro, allows you to cook the roux for a few seconds longer to get it a little darker, and you don't have to stand there and watch it cook.


If you have never used the microwave, you should try it once.

Micro Wave Roux____ medium size batch

The absolutely best [easiest] way to make a Roux is in a Microwave Oven. I don't expect to convince any die hard's cause I wouldn't have believed it myself if I didn't try it. I've been doing it for many years....

Put about 1 cup of flour and 3/4 cup of oil in a medium size microwaveable bowl... Whisk good to get it all mixed up. Place in micro wave - cook on high for 3 minutes - Whisk , cook for 1.5 minutes - whisk, cook for 1 minute, whisk...keep micro waving and whisking for 30 seconds [or less] intervals until it is almost the color you want then remove from oven but continue to whisk every few minutes until it cools. Be careful when taking the bowl out of the microwave…. It will be very hot.

Note: for larger roux batches, cook for a little longer. Smaller batch…. Use shorter times.

Remember, it will continue to darken even after removed from the microwave, that's why I said "Almost the color you want" ---Total cooking time about 10 to 12 minutes….. or longer if you are busy and wait longer between "cooking” the roux again. You can then stir it in the pot with your seasoning vegetables that are already softened before putting the mixture in the stock.

Or….. after the roux cools for several minutes, you can mix in your vegetables to cook them in the hot roux. You probably will need to add some stock or water to thin the roux some.

Note: I sometimes make a little extra roux, and freeze the extra. Now I have a little roux ready to add to something small that I am cooking. You can cut off small amount of the frozen roux with a kitchen knife, to thicken up anything you are cooking

The first time you make the roux in the microwave, it will take you longer to get it made. But once you get a better “feel” for how to do this, it gets much easier.

This post was edited on 12/9/22 at 1:12 am
Posted by CherokeeTiger
Member since Jan 2011
610 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 5:15 am to
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Making my first gumbo


Are you inexperienced with making a roux? Maybe do what I did. The first few times I was slow and super careful with it. As I got more experience, I got faster with it. It’s not as big of a deal as people make it out to be, but it certainly does take practice and a sense of what to expect.
This post was edited on 12/9/22 at 5:17 am
Posted by LSUballs
RayVegas LA
Member since Feb 2008
38926 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 5:24 am to
Stir your roux up. Stick in the oven on 375. Chop your trinity. When your roux gets dark, add your onion. Back in the oven for about 10 minutes. Take out and add peppers and celery. Back in the oven for about 10 minutes. Take out and it's ready to intertwine with the homeade stock you made by roasting the bones of the chickens you smoked.
Posted by SixthAndBarone
Member since Jan 2019
9866 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 6:17 am to
For stovetop pots, microwave roux for the win! About 5 minutes!
Posted by Panny Crickets
Fort Worth, TX
Member since Sep 2008
5596 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 6:32 am to
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Maybe do what I did. The first few times I was slow and super careful with it. As I got more experience, I got faster with it. It’s not as big of a deal as people make it out to be, but it certainly does take practice and a sense of what to expect.


Yep, that’s the fun of making a gumbo. It’s an experience. Good music, good drink.

Keep practicing and enjoy it—that’s the most important part.
Posted by jamiegla1
Member since Aug 2016
7553 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 7:19 am to
I use the same recipe but do it in the oven. it takes a long time but I only have to stir every 30 min
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
164964 posts
Posted on 12/9/22 at 7:39 am to
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The process.

And the process shouldn't take 40 minutes
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