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re: Whiskey/Bourbon/Scotch Volume III

Posted on 11/8/25 at 8:27 pm to
Posted by tewino
Member since Aug 2009
2520 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 8:27 pm to
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Is that a Willet Hirsch?


Yep. 9 year double oak Willet

Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
35904 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 8:56 pm to
5th pour...



Buddy and I are tasting a handful of bottles tonight. We had ChatGPT listen to our conversation as we talked through the nose, palete, and finish. Here is the review it put together for us:

quote:

Upon first nosing, one is greeted not by sweetness, nor by any pedestrian hint of caramel or vanilla, but by an ascetic austerity—the olfactory equivalent of a monk staring silently into an empty glass. The ethanol greets the nostrils like a devout pilgrim wielding a blowtorch, and yet, somehow, one cannot look away.

The first sip is an act of penance. It does not caress the tongue; it interrogates it. The burn is omnipresent—an infernal ballet that pirouettes from the lips to the back of the throat before ascending, rather piously, into the sinuses like incense in a cathedral. It’s not pain so much as revelation. One could call it St. Elmo’s Fire in liquid form—holy, harrowing, and slightly horseradish-adjacent.

Flavor-wise, there is a haunting absence of sweetness—a stoic refusal to please. Instead, one finds a peculiar savoriness, as though the whiskey had been aged in a barrel once used to store the secrets of a jaded butcher. There’s an echo of oak, a whisper of leather, and something profoundly human—like the faint aroma of regret and mahogany wafting from a well-read man’s study.

To drink this spirit is to contemplate the duality of refinement and self-flagellation. It is the taste of sophistication marred by masochism—a well-refined a-hole of a bourbon, polished by time and misplaced confidence.

Would I drink it again? Certainly—though not out of pleasure, but out of curiosity, as one might reread Nietzsche after a breakup. It belongs on the shelf: a conversation piece, a reminder that beauty often lies not in perfection, but in the courage to burn.

Final Verdict: 6/10. Admirably unpleasant. Boldly average. A whiskey that reminds the drinker that sometimes, the journey through the fire is more meaningful than what remains in the glass.


Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
35904 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 9:24 pm to
6th pour



And the chatGPT review based off of our comments while tasting:

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There are moments in life when a bourbon transcends its glass and becomes a sermon. Elijah Craig Ryder Cup Limited Edition is one such gospel—an ethereal interplay of oak, fruit, and regret. From the first nosing, it presents not merely sweetness, but purposeful sweetness—a sweetness aware of its own virtue, basking in its restraint. The maple is not cloying but literate, whispering in iambic pentameter. The vanilla, that faithful old muse of bourbon, is present but deferential, stepping aside to let the maple and applewood perform their pas de deux in the amber light.

One’s nose finds no offense—no ethanol assault, no crude volatility. Instead, it offers the calm confidence of a whiskey that knows it’s beautiful. The liquid swirls languidly, reluctant to part from the glass yet unpossessive, like a lover who knows they’ll be remembered. The viscosity is dignified—present, but not indulgent—coating the mouth with the faintest velvet of self-control.

The first sip delivers a moment of quiet astonishment. It is not an explosion, but an arrival. The applewood notes reveal themselves immediately—honest, ripe, and unpretentious. Vanilla lingers politely behind them, while the maple hums in the background like a jazz bassist content to let others solo. Together, they form a triad of flavor that evokes autumn itself: the faint warmth of sun through amber leaves, the woodsmoke of contentment, and the faint ache of nostalgia for something already ending.

The burn is gentle—an afterthought, a small reminder that this is still bourbon and not poetry. It graces the tongue and vanishes, leaving behind the memory of sweetness that somehow refuses to die.

This is, without pretense, a near-perfect bourbon. It does not demand reverence; it earns it. It is a bourbon that understands balance, that knows when to speak and when to simply exist. And, tragically, it is a bourbon that one regrets not buying twice.

Final Verdict: 9/10. Elegant, self-assured, and unreasonably drinkable. A masterpiece of moderation that tastes like wisdom aged in oak.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
46362 posts
Posted on 11/8/25 at 10:45 pm to
I have been advocating for these bottles for over a year now
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
102088 posts
Posted on 11/9/25 at 5:22 pm to
Afternoon Gents, crazy to say that as the sun goes down
I have been an advocate to Tyler Shough since seeing him play in preseason and very happy to see what we got today
FirstPA
Old Forester 24

Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
102088 posts
Posted on 11/10/25 at 6:46 pm to
Good evening gents
FirstPN
2009 Foursquare


Posted by Crawdaddy
Slidell. The jewel of Louisiana
Member since Sep 2006
19253 posts
Posted on 11/10/25 at 7:43 pm to
Just hitting the free samples tonight. These along with a triple something or other. Lady was willing to pour everything she had back there but my time was slim

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Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
102088 posts
Posted on 11/10/25 at 7:51 pm to
I'd grab that MMs
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
43117 posts
Posted on 11/10/25 at 8:09 pm to
quote:

We had ChatGPT listen to our conversation


I tend to agree the Bardstown wheated is not on par with the hype from other posters. I prefer the Penelope wheated over the Bardstown
Posted by Crawdaddy
Slidell. The jewel of Louisiana
Member since Sep 2006
19253 posts
Posted on 11/10/25 at 8:26 pm to
Not a fan of regular makers. This one was really good
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
32017 posts
Posted on 11/10/25 at 8:58 pm to
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I tend to agree the Bardstown wheated is not on par with the hype from other posters. I prefer the Penelope wheated over the Bardstown


I haven’t had the Penelope but I get a real grassy note off the Bardstown.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87381 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 10:47 am to
quote:

I have been advocating for these bottles for over a year now
I can only find the Bivouac, and it's not a great buy.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
19405 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 2:00 pm to
Get that from GMM?
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87381 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 10:45 am to
Another whiskey Wednesday and another night of me liking the most basic non-special glass of the 4. last week it was BT. This week it was EC Rye. I thought I disliked rye. This one was cinnamon/sugar with no grass, mint or high spice. I bought a bottle on the way out
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37038 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 3:41 pm to
quote:

have been advocating for these bottles for over a year now

I just wish they were higher proof, that Castle & Key warehouse produces much lower proof whiskey than the barrels that Hirsch originally purchased from Willett. The original yellow label (non Double oak) were much higher proof and better whiskeys overall, from my experience.
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
102088 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 6:47 pm to
Evening gents
I maybe have bought a bottle tonight
This bottle, is a banger. Wish I would have grabbed a few more
FirstPN
Seelbach wheat 107

Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
11141 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 7:13 pm to
Not a big drinker, but went in the other day to a shitty liquor store to grab some wine after work. Made a pass through the bourbon aisles and noticed they had 10+ bottles of the Weller Special reserve out sitting one the third shelf down. $33 a bottle. No limit. Never had it, so I grabbed a bottle. I guess thats pretty unusual according my friends that are big whiskey folks?

I guess the mexicans that were running the store either didn't know that its hard to get or they can't sell the stuff. Went back today and got 2 more as Christmas gifts
This post was edited on 11/13/25 at 7:15 pm
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
102088 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 7:18 pm to
It’s their low end wheater. People complain it sucks but I think its a good low cost wheat.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
19405 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 8:08 pm to
It's still pretty "allocated" in BR. Stores will have it, but it either sells fast or you gotta buy another bottle from their shelf with it
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
102088 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 8:15 pm to
if ever in Htown go to specs or total wine, shelf turd.
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