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re: TulaneLSU's Top 100 pizzas of America in 2024
Posted on 7/9/24 at 10:18 am to hoopsgalore
Posted on 7/9/24 at 10:18 am to hoopsgalore
I went to Chicago for first time two years ago. My first meal was my first Deep Dish I haven't tried it again since and don't need to.
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Posted on 7/9/24 at 11:38 am to Napoleon
have you done Brooklyn pizza in bay st louis. Pretty good NY style within easy reach of some of mother's haunts i'm sure
Posted on 7/10/24 at 8:09 am to TulaneLSU
NY Times just did "22 of the Best Pizza Places in the United States," with one Louisiana entry. I've never had it so can't comment.
St. Pizza
St. Pizza
quote:
Where are American pizza restaurants heading? St. Pizza suggests an appealing path. It’s a slice place, with a sidewalk takeout window, featuring the kind of crisp, sparely appointed pizza that the co-owner Tony Biancosino ate growing up in southern New Jersey, outside Philadelphia. But there’s more. Walk past the cash register and into a partly hidden, seductively lit tavern, where those same excellent pizzas — topped with housemade fennel sausage, with in-season greens and sweet ricotta, with crushed tomatoes, oregano and fennel pollen — are served as whole pies, offered in two sizes. They’re the backbone of what amounts to a red-sauce Italian place stripped to its essentials and polished to suit modern tastes. The restaurant — which Mr. Biancosino opened early this year with Leslie Pariseau, his business partner and wife, and another partner, Abhi Bhansali — is two doors down from Patron Saint, the couple’s shop and bar specializing in low-intervention wines. So yes, you can enjoy your pizza, and whatever else, with a bottle of Slovenian pet-nat rosé. BRETT ANDERSON
Posted on 7/10/24 at 10:41 am to Twenty 49
Had it, and it's good by New Orleans standards. But Top 22 in the country? No way.
Posted on 7/10/24 at 11:04 am to Twenty 49
St. Pizza is very good.
Posted on 7/11/24 at 7:08 am to Napoleon
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went to Chicago for first time two years ago. My first meal was my first Deep Dish I haven't tried it again since and don't need to.
Yeah, deep dish is way down the list for me. Ironically, the first time I ever went to Chicago - the first pizza I ever got there was the "upside down" pizza at Chicago Pizza and Oven Grinder. Co. Some have termed it a pizza pot pie.
I really liked it but have never been back, and unfortunately have had several deep dish pizzas in the interim as that's where everyone wants to go.
Posted on 7/11/24 at 8:53 am to Tiger Ugly
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Some have termed it a pizza pot pie.
That's how they term it on the menu. Honestly, I like it for what it is - savory and full of flavor; worth splitting with someone, for sure. Wife and I crave it every so often and split one after walking Lakefront Trail.
If I were to guide someone through Chicago pizza, it'd be to grab your deep dish / pan from Milly's and bar / tavern from Middle Brow on Tavern Tuesday. However, I understand most visitors aren't here on a Tuesday, so I'd instead steer towards Side Street Saloon or Phil's.
Posted on 7/12/24 at 6:39 am to TulaneLSU
Wow, friend, you sure do get around. How do you and mom find time to travel the country to eat all that pizza. Do you travel with the honorable Mayor Latoya and her bodyguard? Anyway, recently ate some good pies at Ogliastro’s and Barboncino’s in Brooklyn. The other typical pizza joints selling NY style pizza by the slice that you see all over are just okay and not something to write home to mother. Bagels, now that would be a way to get New Yorkers fired up.
Posted on 7/12/24 at 8:14 am to LeGrosChat
Friend,
You chose two excellent pizzerias. I hope you enjoyed.
Mother and I love traveling, and there is no city we love more than New York. As we both age, we find New York's call grow even stronger. Whereas once we only visited two or three times each year, we find ourselves in New York perhaps six times a year now. Last year we spent over a month in the city. It is the world's city and if I were ever to live in another city, New York would be it. We have never traveled with Mayor Cantrell or her bodyguard.
In your last letter, you ended with a tantalizing line about bagels. I will confess that I am not an expert on bagels, but anyone who spends some time in New York will undoubtedly arrive at list of his favorite bagels, such is the omnipresence of bagels in town.
TulaneLSU’s Top 10 NYC bagels:
10. Ess-a-bagel
As a child Ess-a was my favorite: big, doughy, and sweet. As my sweet tooth has shrunk with time, so too has my enjoyment of Ess-a. Nostalgia has me returning, but I now no longer will go out of my way or wait in line for Ess-a. Unfortunately, Cousin almost always asks me to grab a dozen to bring home to him.
9. Utopia Bagels
Back in 2016, Uncle and I flew into LGA. When we got in a cab – I had pleaded to take the bus and subway into the city – Uncle asked the cab driver for his favorite bagel. Though it was out of the way, all three of us had a delicious time at this bagel stop that is a tradition for us whenever we fly into LGA. I heard they are now opening a location on Manhattan, but I think we will keep the tradition with the original location alive.
8. Barney Greengrass
Most people I know turn their noses up at Barney Greengrass’s bagels. I think, though, that BG’s rather dry and chewy bagel is the perfect casing for the best smoked fish in NY.
7. Zucker’s
Zucker’s is my go-to for shipped bagels from GoldBelly. It was a few years ago and Ess-a’s prices on Goldbelly had shot up. Zucker’s was running a special – I believe two dozen for $40 shipped. I bit and ever since, if I need a shipped bagel gift or need to stock the bagel freezer, Zucker’s gets my business.
6. Bagelworks
Years ago, we were visiting cousins who live on the Upper East Side. One of the cousins who is faculty at Weill Cornell was doing grand rounds one Friday and his secretary had called in sick. He asked Mother and me to get five dozen bagels at Bagelworks. After standing in line for about 15 minutes, we got his request. The counter serviceman gave us five free ones and asked if we would also like a schmear. We prefer our bagels with butter, so he gave us an 8oz plastic bowl full of it. After we dropped it off, Mother and I sat in a nearby park and devoured those five bagels, so excellent were they.
5. Frankel’s
Frankel’s is better known for its sandwiches, especially its pastrami, egg, and cheese sandwich, which is a thing of beauty. But a buttered bagel from Frankel’s, is just what I recommend to anyone headed over to wait in the often interminable line at Peter Pan Donut Shop, which is a must for any lover of donuts.
4. Tompkins
Tompkins are now everywhere in Manhattan and for good reason. They serve solid bagels and the wait is rarely over ten minutes.
3. Sadelle’s
Sure, it is a hassle to get a reservation here. And yes, Sadelle’s is not cheap. But sitting in the restaurant next to the glass box where bagels are continuously made, you get the impression that Sadelle’s is taking bagel making to an entirely new level. We have only been twice and each time got the tower, whose smoked fish is incredible. They bring out bagels until you are finished. And each bagel stick looks like a twisted lollipop made of bagels. I am now really craving Sadelle’s!
2. Orwasher’s
Famous for its rye bread, which is absolutely the best in the city, do not overlook Orwasher’s bagels, which are dense, filling, and a revelation. The new bakery on the Upper East Side makes for a lovely walk in the early hours.
1. Zabar’s
Mother and I were watching The Prince of Tides last night at a neighbor who hosts a movie night once weekly. During the film, Ms. Streisand appears in Central Park holding a Zabar’s bag filled with sandwiches. “Rewind the film!” I exclaimed. The neighbor did. “I wanted to make sure I was seeing right. I love Zabar’s!”
No one commented, and it was a disappointment that we could neither see the contents of the sandwiches or the type of bread used. I imagined it was a sesame bagel with Zabar’s perfect Lox and capers. Zabar’s for me is the quintessential New York bagel. Perfect proportions, density, and chew, Zabar’s never lands on any Best Of lists, except mine. And it is a clear #1. And one of the cheapest bagels in the city.
Yours,
TulaneLSU
You chose two excellent pizzerias. I hope you enjoyed.
Mother and I love traveling, and there is no city we love more than New York. As we both age, we find New York's call grow even stronger. Whereas once we only visited two or three times each year, we find ourselves in New York perhaps six times a year now. Last year we spent over a month in the city. It is the world's city and if I were ever to live in another city, New York would be it. We have never traveled with Mayor Cantrell or her bodyguard.
In your last letter, you ended with a tantalizing line about bagels. I will confess that I am not an expert on bagels, but anyone who spends some time in New York will undoubtedly arrive at list of his favorite bagels, such is the omnipresence of bagels in town.
TulaneLSU’s Top 10 NYC bagels:
10. Ess-a-bagel
As a child Ess-a was my favorite: big, doughy, and sweet. As my sweet tooth has shrunk with time, so too has my enjoyment of Ess-a. Nostalgia has me returning, but I now no longer will go out of my way or wait in line for Ess-a. Unfortunately, Cousin almost always asks me to grab a dozen to bring home to him.
9. Utopia Bagels
Back in 2016, Uncle and I flew into LGA. When we got in a cab – I had pleaded to take the bus and subway into the city – Uncle asked the cab driver for his favorite bagel. Though it was out of the way, all three of us had a delicious time at this bagel stop that is a tradition for us whenever we fly into LGA. I heard they are now opening a location on Manhattan, but I think we will keep the tradition with the original location alive.
8. Barney Greengrass
Most people I know turn their noses up at Barney Greengrass’s bagels. I think, though, that BG’s rather dry and chewy bagel is the perfect casing for the best smoked fish in NY.
7. Zucker’s
Zucker’s is my go-to for shipped bagels from GoldBelly. It was a few years ago and Ess-a’s prices on Goldbelly had shot up. Zucker’s was running a special – I believe two dozen for $40 shipped. I bit and ever since, if I need a shipped bagel gift or need to stock the bagel freezer, Zucker’s gets my business.
6. Bagelworks
Years ago, we were visiting cousins who live on the Upper East Side. One of the cousins who is faculty at Weill Cornell was doing grand rounds one Friday and his secretary had called in sick. He asked Mother and me to get five dozen bagels at Bagelworks. After standing in line for about 15 minutes, we got his request. The counter serviceman gave us five free ones and asked if we would also like a schmear. We prefer our bagels with butter, so he gave us an 8oz plastic bowl full of it. After we dropped it off, Mother and I sat in a nearby park and devoured those five bagels, so excellent were they.
5. Frankel’s
Frankel’s is better known for its sandwiches, especially its pastrami, egg, and cheese sandwich, which is a thing of beauty. But a buttered bagel from Frankel’s, is just what I recommend to anyone headed over to wait in the often interminable line at Peter Pan Donut Shop, which is a must for any lover of donuts.
4. Tompkins
Tompkins are now everywhere in Manhattan and for good reason. They serve solid bagels and the wait is rarely over ten minutes.
3. Sadelle’s
Sure, it is a hassle to get a reservation here. And yes, Sadelle’s is not cheap. But sitting in the restaurant next to the glass box where bagels are continuously made, you get the impression that Sadelle’s is taking bagel making to an entirely new level. We have only been twice and each time got the tower, whose smoked fish is incredible. They bring out bagels until you are finished. And each bagel stick looks like a twisted lollipop made of bagels. I am now really craving Sadelle’s!
2. Orwasher’s
Famous for its rye bread, which is absolutely the best in the city, do not overlook Orwasher’s bagels, which are dense, filling, and a revelation. The new bakery on the Upper East Side makes for a lovely walk in the early hours.
1. Zabar’s
Mother and I were watching The Prince of Tides last night at a neighbor who hosts a movie night once weekly. During the film, Ms. Streisand appears in Central Park holding a Zabar’s bag filled with sandwiches. “Rewind the film!” I exclaimed. The neighbor did. “I wanted to make sure I was seeing right. I love Zabar’s!”
No one commented, and it was a disappointment that we could neither see the contents of the sandwiches or the type of bread used. I imagined it was a sesame bagel with Zabar’s perfect Lox and capers. Zabar’s for me is the quintessential New York bagel. Perfect proportions, density, and chew, Zabar’s never lands on any Best Of lists, except mine. And it is a clear #1. And one of the cheapest bagels in the city.
Yours,
TulaneLSU
Posted on 7/12/24 at 9:41 pm to TulaneLSU
Wow, just schmear me, you constantly amaze with your prose and knowledge of food. I will print this bagel list for my next visit to the NYC; however I will consult with some of my Jewish friend there as they are very particular on their bagels.
I no longer doubt your knowledge of foods- Tom Fitzmorris should have followed you. You are such a mensch, Bubbe would be proud.
I no longer doubt your knowledge of foods- Tom Fitzmorris should have followed you. You are such a mensch, Bubbe would be proud.
Posted on 7/12/24 at 10:04 pm to jmon
Jmon- you should be banned for insinuating AI played any part in this master piece by TD's greatest poster. I can't stand cheese yet read every word. Bravo TL!
Posted on 8/25/24 at 7:06 am to Big Bill
Jolly - Brits try NYC Pizza
i watched this Jolly video and am interested in checking out the first and third places. However, i never heard them identify the name of the restaurants, other than the second - L’industrie. For anyone who has seen the video and am familiar with these places, can you give their names? Thanks!
i watched this Jolly video and am interested in checking out the first and third places. However, i never heard them identify the name of the restaurants, other than the second - L’industrie. For anyone who has seen the video and am familiar with these places, can you give their names? Thanks!
Posted on 8/25/24 at 8:44 am to Roscoe
IL Supremo in Ole Metry is doing pizza popups and their pizza is pretty damn good
Posted on 8/25/24 at 10:26 am to Roscoe
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For anyone who has seen the video and am familiar with these places, can you give their names? Thanks!
Don't know about the third, but first
is Fini in Williamsburg. It's pretty solid but there are just so many good spots walking distance from one another in that neighborhood.
This post was edited on 8/25/24 at 10:27 am
Posted on 8/25/24 at 3:03 pm to BigApple
quote:
I have only been to three on your list but I totally disagree with your take on deep dish pizza.
Best deep dish (stuffed) in Chicago is The Art of Pizza. We ordered a large one time that I think weighed in at 6 pounds
Posted on 8/25/24 at 10:21 pm to TulaneLSU
17. DeLorenzo’s Tomato Pies (Robbinsville, NJ) 9.38
People talk about New Haven being the pizza capital of America. Maybe it is time to mention Robbinsville, NJ in that conversation. Per capita, there is not a better pizza town in the world.
When I started reading this post I thought to myself, “If he doesn’t have DeLorenzo’s on this list, it’s a crap list.”
People talk about New Haven being the pizza capital of America. Maybe it is time to mention Robbinsville, NJ in that conversation. Per capita, there is not a better pizza town in the world.
When I started reading this post I thought to myself, “If he doesn’t have DeLorenzo’s on this list, it’s a crap list.”
Posted on 8/25/24 at 11:10 pm to t00f
quote:
IL Supremo in Ole Metry is doing pizza popups and their pizza is pretty damn good
Same restaurant group as juniors, curbside, and overpass. Pretty quality stuff.
Posted on 8/27/24 at 9:50 am to auzach91
quote:
Just went to John’s of Bleecker this past week. Wasn’t that impressed honestly. It was good but I think L’industrie was better
I prefer bleecker st pizza, which didn’t make his list.
Rubirosa is amazing.
While NY style pizza is my favorite, Lou malnati’s butter crust is the single best pizza I’ve ever had.
Posted on 8/27/24 at 8:19 pm to t00f
Friends,
With our seventh 2024 trip to New York coming up in less than a month, I am happy to share our pizza itinerary. While I cannot guarantee we will make all stops, I am focusing this pizza trip on Neapolitan style, which has never had a better era in America.
Roberta’s at Penn Station recently opened a full service restaurant with a wonderful balcony. Their Neapolitan pies are, according to a recent Eater article, every bit “as good as Una Pizza Neapoletana.” That is beyond the highest praise and set my expectations very high. The last time I was at the original Roberta’s in Bushwick, the dough was underhydrated and hard. I hope Roberta’s can come through. Downstairs at its adjoining outlet, J Slice is said to have one of the best slices in NY, according to an authority I highly respect. Of course I will try both. My dilemma is to make or not to make room for the bread service with cheese, which looks incredible.
NY Pizza Suprema has always been my go to when arriving at Penn Station. Will Roberta’s replace it?
Another new slice shop I will try is Cello’s in East Village, which is taking over the spot where Funzi’s had a short life last year. Funzi’s, which I tried twice, was wildly inconsistent. The first time was wonderful; the second was probably the reason they closed. East Village is perhaps the worst neighborhood in Manhattan south of Harlem, so it will be great if Cello’s can make it. Motorino’s nearby continues to decline, so it will not be on our agenda.
Back to Neapolitan style, somehow I have never tried PizzArte in Midtown, and I shall change that. Don Antonio’s nearby will also get some space, as will Ribalta. I have already emailed Anthony Mangieri at Una Pizza to see if he can reserve a table for me. So far, he has not responded. If necessary, I will have to get on Resy to make a reservation, or worse come to worse, will have to wait in line, which I hear now requires a 1 to 1.5 hour wait to ensure you get one of his walk-in spots. Please respond, A.
After finishing a pizza at John’s of Bleecker, if I have room I will try for a spot at Song’E Napule, which is in the running with Ribalta and Da Michele for second best Neapolitan pizza after Una. Keste will see my business again. I have not seen Roberto in years. Oh, and Lazzara’s should be on my list. This writing is helping crystalize the plan.
Late night, I will probably throw in Upside, Scarr’s, Mama’s Too (the new one), and maybe Joe’s, just out of obligation to our NY friends. We have not decided if we will brave the wait at Lucali.
Toofi,if you subtract the onions and pepperoni, your photo looks like a good pie. I will try it next time we are in Metairie. The plain for $18 looks like a good deal.
Yours,
TulaneLSU
With our seventh 2024 trip to New York coming up in less than a month, I am happy to share our pizza itinerary. While I cannot guarantee we will make all stops, I am focusing this pizza trip on Neapolitan style, which has never had a better era in America.
Roberta’s at Penn Station recently opened a full service restaurant with a wonderful balcony. Their Neapolitan pies are, according to a recent Eater article, every bit “as good as Una Pizza Neapoletana.” That is beyond the highest praise and set my expectations very high. The last time I was at the original Roberta’s in Bushwick, the dough was underhydrated and hard. I hope Roberta’s can come through. Downstairs at its adjoining outlet, J Slice is said to have one of the best slices in NY, according to an authority I highly respect. Of course I will try both. My dilemma is to make or not to make room for the bread service with cheese, which looks incredible.
NY Pizza Suprema has always been my go to when arriving at Penn Station. Will Roberta’s replace it?
Another new slice shop I will try is Cello’s in East Village, which is taking over the spot where Funzi’s had a short life last year. Funzi’s, which I tried twice, was wildly inconsistent. The first time was wonderful; the second was probably the reason they closed. East Village is perhaps the worst neighborhood in Manhattan south of Harlem, so it will be great if Cello’s can make it. Motorino’s nearby continues to decline, so it will not be on our agenda.
Back to Neapolitan style, somehow I have never tried PizzArte in Midtown, and I shall change that. Don Antonio’s nearby will also get some space, as will Ribalta. I have already emailed Anthony Mangieri at Una Pizza to see if he can reserve a table for me. So far, he has not responded. If necessary, I will have to get on Resy to make a reservation, or worse come to worse, will have to wait in line, which I hear now requires a 1 to 1.5 hour wait to ensure you get one of his walk-in spots. Please respond, A.
After finishing a pizza at John’s of Bleecker, if I have room I will try for a spot at Song’E Napule, which is in the running with Ribalta and Da Michele for second best Neapolitan pizza after Una. Keste will see my business again. I have not seen Roberto in years. Oh, and Lazzara’s should be on my list. This writing is helping crystalize the plan.
Late night, I will probably throw in Upside, Scarr’s, Mama’s Too (the new one), and maybe Joe’s, just out of obligation to our NY friends. We have not decided if we will brave the wait at Lucali.
Toofi,if you subtract the onions and pepperoni, your photo looks like a good pie. I will try it next time we are in Metairie. The plain for $18 looks like a good deal.
Yours,
TulaneLSU
Posted on 8/27/24 at 8:30 pm to TulaneLSU
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Toofi,if you subtract the onions and pepperoni,
I went a little overboard but wanted my pizza. Pep is a moral imperative
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I will try it next time we are in Metairie.
If you don’t ping me while in my territory I will be disappointed
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