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Supermarket ground meat: grinding technique?

Posted on 12/13/20 at 7:25 am
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
17646 posts
Posted on 12/13/20 at 7:25 am
I'm guessing that they course grind the meat and fat then add in to a meat mixer. Then run back through a fine plate. Can anybody confirm?
Posted by Sidicous
NELA
Member since Aug 2015
19296 posts
Posted on 12/13/20 at 7:47 am to
Most of the ground meat is delivered in 50lb tubes, chubs. Just like the 1lb or 5lb you see in the display case except larger. Grocer just repackages for appearance sake and/or volume availability.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
49696 posts
Posted on 12/13/20 at 8:10 am to
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Most of the ground meat is delivered in 50lb tubes, chubs. Just like the 1lb or 5lb you see in the display case except larger. Grocer just repackages for appearance sake and/or volume availability.



Yep. I mentioned this here a year ago and got blasted and called a liar. Same when I mention that most all shrimp is previously frozen.

The amount of ground meat that is shoved out the door, very few places are grinding their own. Calandros does it on a small scale when they sell the chili grind which is the course grind.
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
20357 posts
Posted on 12/13/20 at 8:13 am to
Less and less "butchering" going on in supermarkets now. Mostly just repackaging larger quantities like already mentioned.

I tried to get some beef bones from a couple markets here in N.O. only to be told they no longer break down whole animals any more and no bones are available.

So I found a locally owned real butcher shop and got some from them.
Posted by OldHickory
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2012
10860 posts
Posted on 12/13/20 at 8:25 am to
Large production facilities with cheap immigrant labor does all the meat processing now. Then it’s packaged and put on a truck to your grocer. Very few butchers in grocery stores anymore.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
49696 posts
Posted on 12/13/20 at 8:32 am to
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Large production facilities with cheap immigrant labor does all the meat processing now. Then it’s packaged and put on a truck to your grocer. Very few butchers in grocery stores anymore.



And it’s been like this for 40 years. Guy I grew up with is a butcher. A real old school butcher. Never went to college just went straight into cutting meat. And I don’t know anyone else younger than him that is a real butcher. It’s a shame really and a craft that is quickly disappearing. The guy works hard but he also makes a damn good living and is proud of what he does.

Modern Marvels The Butcher

When you have 45 minutes this is a good video.
Posted by Sidicous
NELA
Member since Aug 2015
19296 posts
Posted on 12/13/20 at 8:32 am to
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The amount of ground meat that is shoved out the door, very few places are grinding their own. Calandros does it on a small scale when they sell the chili grind which is the course grind.
They all do some minor grinding for whatever scraps and odd bits they generate. They all do that their own way for individual purposes. Like you mention chili meat, another may make their own sausage so grind is different.

I would even suspect the grind has to do with several factors like equipment available, personnel, manager purposes, and always customer demand which can be measured directly or indirectly, maybe even seasonally.

During this pandemic I've seen a couple of local stores, 1 a major chain the other a small regional, put the 50lb chubs in the case for the hoarders to snag up. (remember the meat shortages rumors and stuff?) Pretty sure they did that because of requests for large packages.
Posted by OldHickory
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2012
10860 posts
Posted on 12/13/20 at 9:08 am to
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And it’s been like this for 40 years.


Yep. My dad was hauling boxed beef in a semi truck all the way back in the late 70’s.
Posted by SixthAndBarone
Member since Jan 2019
11332 posts
Posted on 12/13/20 at 10:28 am to
Yea, most ground meat is delivered in 10 pound tubes, 50-80 pound cases depending on the company, already ground. Tubes do not weigh exactly 10 pounds, they are catch-weight. Groceries open the tubes and grind it again. As they grind it, they put it on the retail trays you buy.

Ground meat is ground twice. The second grind is to give the appearance you see in the retail trays. It’s all nice and pretty and looks like it’s “in rows”.

As far as a coarse grind and then a fine grind, it just depends on who’s doing it. Ideally, yes, use a larger plate and finish with the smaller plate. What size plate? Just depends on who.
Posted by NOLAGT
Over there
Member since Dec 2012
14065 posts
Posted on 12/13/20 at 10:36 am to
I invested in a big grinder and have been doing my own for a little bit now, I don't regret it one bit. Been using whole briskets for my ground meat and fat needs for a good price per lb. I know what's in it...

I make one pass with the coarse plate, mix it a little by hand, lastly through the fine plate (the 2 that came with the unit).
This post was edited on 12/13/20 at 10:37 am
Posted by unclejhim
Folsom, La.
Member since Nov 2011
3703 posts
Posted on 12/13/20 at 10:46 am to
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I invested in a big grinder and have been doing my own for a little bit now


Yep, I've been doing the same thing for a few years now. Best burger meat in town.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
46419 posts
Posted on 12/13/20 at 12:35 pm to
Almost 30?years ago I worked in a grocery store meat market for a summer. All trimmings had to be sold as just ground meat. Ground chuck, ground round m, etc, came from a 10lb tube and were run through the grinder once to package
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
52614 posts
Posted on 12/13/20 at 4:38 pm to
This is exactly what I do. Buy the tubes and then regrind it to "fluff" it. It makes much better hamburgers if you do this. They stay juicier and not dry and thick
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
48169 posts
Posted on 12/13/20 at 6:10 pm to
I worked in a butcher shop in a small local supermarket back in the late 90’s and we still cut up whole cows and grounded fresh ground meat. The same guy still runs the dept, but I think they have swapped to just getting all precut. Would be cool to go in the cooler and they would have a few sides of beef just hanging waiting to be cut.
This post was edited on 12/13/20 at 6:11 pm
Posted by unclejhim
Folsom, La.
Member since Nov 2011
3703 posts
Posted on 12/14/20 at 10:36 am to
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When you have 45 minutes this is a good video.

I just watched that, the mobile butcher at the end is pretty cool.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
49696 posts
Posted on 12/14/20 at 11:16 am to
LINK

This is another good one. He talks about the lost craftsman and how hard the work is. He’s right.
Posted by unclejhim
Folsom, La.
Member since Nov 2011
3703 posts
Posted on 12/14/20 at 4:49 pm to
That was interesting. Glad some are keeping the trade alive.
Posted by Btrtigerfan
Disgruntled employee
Member since Dec 2007
24169 posts
Posted on 12/14/20 at 5:16 pm to
These guys are real butchers. . Watch him process a side of beef with a boning knife and a bandsaw.
Posted by nerd guy
Grapevine
Member since Dec 2008
13842 posts
Posted on 12/14/20 at 5:36 pm to
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Modern Marvels


Loved that damn show.
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