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Soaking in buttermilk before smoking
Posted on 7/17/24 at 9:45 pm
Posted on 7/17/24 at 9:45 pm
A friend of mine recommended this with beef ribs .. soaking in seasoned buttermilk 8 hours before the smoke…and also using a mayo binder instead of mustard.
- I smoked ribs with the mayo binder last weekend and they came out great and moist. Not so sure on potentially ruining 70 dollars of meat with buttermilk though. Anyone ever try this ?
- I smoked ribs with the mayo binder last weekend and they came out great and moist. Not so sure on potentially ruining 70 dollars of meat with buttermilk though. Anyone ever try this ?
Posted on 7/17/24 at 9:56 pm to Espritdescorps
Seems pretty odd. I think a lot of people get bored and try to think of innovative ways to bbq.
The best way is to keep it simple. The most popular bbq joints in the world don’t do this. And they sell out of bbq everyday.
The best way is to keep it simple. The most popular bbq joints in the world don’t do this. And they sell out of bbq everyday.
Posted on 7/17/24 at 10:02 pm to Espritdescorps
Not sure about beef or pork... But it works great with chicken and fish..
Posted on 7/17/24 at 10:45 pm to Espritdescorps
Using mayo over mustard played no part in why your ribs were more moist 
Posted on 7/17/24 at 10:57 pm to bluebarracuda
What’s the reason that buttermilk would work over milk? Buttermilk is just milk that’s had the fat removed to make butter right? Would soaking in milk not do the same thing? Only difference would be flavor right?
If you are doing $70 OP that’s a lot of racks. I wouldn’t ever experiment with that many, maybe do one rack with and the rest without and see how it goes.
If you are doing $70 OP that’s a lot of racks. I wouldn’t ever experiment with that many, maybe do one rack with and the rest without and see how it goes.
Posted on 7/18/24 at 12:22 am to baldona
acidity in buttermilk breaks down fiber in meats when marinated
Posted on 7/18/24 at 7:22 am to Espritdescorps
I have been using mayo as a binder in competitions BBQ over mustard for a long time. Mustard is salty and the rubs and sauces we use also have a high salt content. To be able to eliminate mustard as a degree of salt has helped in the finish.
Butter milk holds an acidic value in the 4 range while whole milk is more of the 6.5 to neutral area. This acidic content is why so many use butter milk as a marinade base for a ton of dishes out there.
8 hours isn't much time for any marinade to work especially a mildly acidic buttermilk however. If you are serious about letting one work most dishes are going to need that 24 hours enzyme breakdown process. Any less and all you are really doing is coating and cooking.
Butter milk holds an acidic value in the 4 range while whole milk is more of the 6.5 to neutral area. This acidic content is why so many use butter milk as a marinade base for a ton of dishes out there.
8 hours isn't much time for any marinade to work especially a mildly acidic buttermilk however. If you are serious about letting one work most dishes are going to need that 24 hours enzyme breakdown process. Any less and all you are really doing is coating and cooking.
Posted on 7/18/24 at 8:53 am to baldona
Besides Buttermilk's acidity, it also contains protease, an enzyme that breaks down protein.
Most of the experiments I've seen using buttermilk with beef have the protein soaking for extended periods of time (3-7 days) before the beef is rendered tender.
Personally, unless you plan on vacuum sealing it, you're going to waste a lot of buttermilk for very little return.
Most of the experiments I've seen using buttermilk with beef have the protein soaking for extended periods of time (3-7 days) before the beef is rendered tender.
Personally, unless you plan on vacuum sealing it, you're going to waste a lot of buttermilk for very little return.
Posted on 7/18/24 at 12:18 pm to CrawfishElvis
quote:
Seems pretty odd. I think a lot of people get bored and try to think of innovative ways to bbq.
The best way is to keep it simple. The most popular bbq joints in the world don’t do this. And they sell out of bbq everyday.
Perfectly stated.
Posted on 7/18/24 at 3:11 pm to Espritdescorps
I usually need to shower after smoking a cigar.
Never tried soaking in buttermilk first.
Never tried soaking in buttermilk first.
Posted on 7/18/24 at 9:41 pm to BigDropper
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Besides Buttermilk's acidity, it also contains protease, an enzyme that breaks down protein
Is there a reason to break down the proteins before a long, low temp cook?
I understand doing so for short, high temp cooks
Posted on 7/20/24 at 12:17 am to bluebarracuda
quote:Not one that makes any sense, but I guess one perspective is that the acids present in buttermilk denature the proteins which increases their ability to retain moisture. Additionally, the enzymes help breakdown muscle fibers to make the meat more tender.
Is there a reason to break down the proteins before a long, low temp cook?
The reason I say this doesn't make sense is because most meats that are utilized for long, low temp cooks typically have high concentrations of collagen which lend to the moisture (juiciness) which is broken down over the duration of cook, making the meat tender.
Seems like a waste of buttermilk and time.
Posted on 7/20/24 at 4:22 pm to Espritdescorps
Use plain yogurt. It does not transfer flavor.
Posted on 7/21/24 at 12:00 pm to One More Shot
Alton Brown’s alt
Nah good info, thx!
Nah good info, thx!
Posted on 7/21/24 at 10:28 pm to LSUGrad2024
Yep KISS. Quit trying to re-invent the wheel !!!!
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