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Soaking in buttermilk before smoking

Posted on 7/17/24 at 9:45 pm
Posted by Espritdescorps
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 7/17/24 at 9:45 pm
A friend of mine recommended this with beef ribs .. soaking in seasoned buttermilk 8 hours before the smoke…and also using a mayo binder instead of mustard.
- I smoked ribs with the mayo binder last weekend and they came out great and moist. Not so sure on potentially ruining 70 dollars of meat with buttermilk though. Anyone ever try this ?
Posted by LSUballs
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Posted on 7/17/24 at 9:50 pm to
Posted by CrawfishElvis
Member since Apr 2021
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Posted on 7/17/24 at 9:56 pm to
Seems pretty odd. I think a lot of people get bored and try to think of innovative ways to bbq.
The best way is to keep it simple. The most popular bbq joints in the world don’t do this. And they sell out of bbq everyday.
Posted by Athis
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Posted on 7/17/24 at 10:02 pm to
Not sure about beef or pork... But it works great with chicken and fish..
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 7/17/24 at 10:45 pm to
Using mayo over mustard played no part in why your ribs were more moist
Posted by baldona
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Posted on 7/17/24 at 10:57 pm to
What’s the reason that buttermilk would work over milk? Buttermilk is just milk that’s had the fat removed to make butter right? Would soaking in milk not do the same thing? Only difference would be flavor right?

If you are doing $70 OP that’s a lot of racks. I wouldn’t ever experiment with that many, maybe do one rack with and the rest without and see how it goes.
Posted by nateslu1
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Posted on 7/18/24 at 12:22 am to
acidity in buttermilk breaks down fiber in meats when marinated
Posted by One More Shot
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 7/18/24 at 7:22 am to
I have been using mayo as a binder in competitions BBQ over mustard for a long time. Mustard is salty and the rubs and sauces we use also have a high salt content. To be able to eliminate mustard as a degree of salt has helped in the finish.

Butter milk holds an acidic value in the 4 range while whole milk is more of the 6.5 to neutral area. This acidic content is why so many use butter milk as a marinade base for a ton of dishes out there.

8 hours isn't much time for any marinade to work especially a mildly acidic buttermilk however. If you are serious about letting one work most dishes are going to need that 24 hours enzyme breakdown process. Any less and all you are really doing is coating and cooking.
Posted by BigDropper
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 7/18/24 at 8:53 am to
Besides Buttermilk's acidity, it also contains protease, an enzyme that breaks down protein.

Most of the experiments I've seen using buttermilk with beef have the protein soaking for extended periods of time (3-7 days) before the beef is rendered tender.

Personally, unless you plan on vacuum sealing it, you're going to waste a lot of buttermilk for very little return.
Posted by SixthAndBarone
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 7/18/24 at 12:18 pm to
quote:

Seems pretty odd. I think a lot of people get bored and try to think of innovative ways to bbq.
The best way is to keep it simple. The most popular bbq joints in the world don’t do this. And they sell out of bbq everyday.


Perfectly stated.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
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Posted on 7/18/24 at 3:11 pm to
I usually need to shower after smoking a cigar.
Never tried soaking in buttermilk first.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 7/18/24 at 9:41 pm to
quote:

Besides Buttermilk's acidity, it also contains protease, an enzyme that breaks down protein


Is there a reason to break down the proteins before a long, low temp cook?

I understand doing so for short, high temp cooks
Posted by BigDropper
Member since Jul 2009
8398 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 12:17 am to
quote:

Is there a reason to break down the proteins before a long, low temp cook?

Not one that makes any sense, but I guess one perspective is that the acids present in buttermilk denature the proteins which increases their ability to retain moisture. Additionally, the enzymes help breakdown muscle fibers to make the meat more tender.

The reason I say this doesn't make sense is because most meats that are utilized for long, low temp cooks typically have high concentrations of collagen which lend to the moisture (juiciness) which is broken down over the duration of cook, making the meat tender.

Seems like a waste of buttermilk and time.
Posted by Missouri Waltz
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Posted on 7/20/24 at 4:22 pm to
Use plain yogurt. It does not transfer flavor.
Posted by LSUGrad2024
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Posted on 7/21/24 at 12:00 pm to
Alton Brown’s alt

Nah good info, thx!
Posted by Ncook
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 7/21/24 at 10:28 pm to
Yep KISS. Quit trying to re-invent the wheel !!!!
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