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re: So how butthurt were the craft brew people about that Bud commercial?
Posted on 2/2/15 at 11:58 am to fightin tigers
Posted on 2/2/15 at 11:58 am to fightin tigers
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Probabaly, but I don't base all my friends off their beer consumption habits.
That wasn't my point to what you posted. I'm done here, though.
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Posted on 2/2/15 at 11:58 am to Y.A. Tittle
seems the non craft beer drinkers have the hurt butts
Posted on 2/2/15 at 11:59 am to TigerWise
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seems the non craft beer drinkers have the hurt butts
You talking to me?
Posted on 2/2/15 at 12:00 pm to Rickety Cricket
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Were you the poster who said that if you attended a crawfish boil and they only had BMC in the ice chests, you just wouldn't drink?
I asked this before so I am going to ask it again.
No one would bat an eye at some girl who only drinks vodka-cranberry opting not to drink at an event that only had beer, but they shite a brick if someone who doesn't drink light lagers opts not to drink because it is the only thing available.
Why is this? Why is some dude's wife who only drinks vodka-cranberry allowed to refuse the beer since she hates it, but someone who drinks craft beer and hates the way BMC tastes can't refuse it?
As an aside: I can't think of the last time I attended an event where I'd be drinking and didn't bring my own stuff, whether it be a little chest of beer or a bottle of wine. Even if it just ends up being a donation to the host.
EDIT: Let it be known I'd probably still drink if I were ever in that situation. But I don't see the issue with someone choosing not to consume something they don't like.
This post was edited on 2/2/15 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 2/2/15 at 12:00 pm to AlxTgr
I missed this one. Pretty good.
I don't buy BMC for the house anymore, mostly because I am not looking to pound them into oblivion at home (usually). But I still drink it on the course or at events where it is the only thing offered, so this commercial isn't upsetting to me. It basically took the opinion of BMC loyalists and made them into a humorous ad.
The thing that always confuses me about the people who hate craft beer and resent the people drinking them, is how contradictory it is to most other markets. Nobody brags about eating only McDonalds or resents people who don't buy their clothes from Wal-Mart. I guess this speaks to the macro producer's marketing and ability to turn drinkers into die-hard loyalists.
The only market that comes close in my mind is Apple vs. its competitors. That one makes more sense, though, since they are after the same groups and their products are much more competitive.
Drink and let drink.
I don't buy BMC for the house anymore, mostly because I am not looking to pound them into oblivion at home (usually). But I still drink it on the course or at events where it is the only thing offered, so this commercial isn't upsetting to me. It basically took the opinion of BMC loyalists and made them into a humorous ad.
The thing that always confuses me about the people who hate craft beer and resent the people drinking them, is how contradictory it is to most other markets. Nobody brags about eating only McDonalds or resents people who don't buy their clothes from Wal-Mart. I guess this speaks to the macro producer's marketing and ability to turn drinkers into die-hard loyalists.
The only market that comes close in my mind is Apple vs. its competitors. That one makes more sense, though, since they are after the same groups and their products are much more competitive.
Drink and let drink.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 12:04 pm to GRTiger
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Nobody brags about eating only McDonalds or resents people who don't buy their clothes from Wal-Mart.
I always assume this about someone when I see them holding a BMC bottle.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 12:04 pm to LouisianaLady
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they shite a brick if someone who doesn't drink light lagers opts not to drink because it is the only thing available.
And there is the group that does the same thing if the only thing available is craft beer and the person chooses not to drink it.
There is rampant hypocrisy and silliness in both camps.
I on the other hand had a really nice Samuel Smiths Chocolate Stout on Friday and enjoyed a Miller Lite on Saturday.
I am enlightened and above both sides.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 12:04 pm to GRTiger
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The thing that always confuses me about the people who hate craft beer and resent the people drinking them, is how contradictory it is to most other markets. Nobody brags about eating only McDonalds or resents people who don't buy their clothes from Wal-Mart. I guess this speaks to the macro producer's marketing and ability to turn drinkers into die-hard loyalists.
It is very interesting for sure.
Like I referenced above, no one would bat an eye at someone turning down a hotdog at a BBQ because they don't like hotdogs. Or turned down a glass of tea because they don't like tea. It is very strange that people are allowed to eat/drink based on their preferences in literally every other aspect except beer.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 12:07 pm to Tigertown in ATL
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And there is the group that does the same thing if the only thing available is craft beer and the person chooses not to drink it.
I see these claims on here, but I don't see them actually happening. The FBD people joke about BMC drinkers, but I've never seen them legitimately wish harm on someone for it like I've seen people do for "beer snobs".
I mean, there are lots of people out there who don't like beer AT ALL (craft or not).
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There is rampant hypocrisy and silliness in both camps.
There are bad apples in all circles. I have no doubt there are beer lovers who put people down. I just tend to see the other camp angry over it far more often.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 12:10 pm to LouisianaLady
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I just tend to see the other camp angry over it far more often.
Could be the case IRL. I don't see it in my circles, but I am not in Louisiana. (Ouch! I'm kidding).
On here, the American Lagerites are routinely derided and called trash, ignorant, tastless, etc.
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legitimately wish harm on someone
You must run in some rough crowds!
Posted on 2/2/15 at 12:12 pm to LouisianaLady
More and more news articles picking up on this.
LINK
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Ad appeared to mock not only craft beer, but also the people who enjoy it — a move that proved to be both tone deaf and embarrassing for the company.
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The ad, which began by noting that Budweiser “is not brewed to be fussed over” ended with the tagline: “Let them sip their pumpkin peach ale. We’ll be brewing us some golden suds.”
Except, whoops! Just over a week ago, Budweiser’s parent company bought well-known Seattle craft brewery Elysian . Among the beers that brewery made last year? The Gourdgia on my Mind Pecan Peach Pumpkin Amber.
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Beer Marketer’s Insights notes that Budweiser’s market share has fallen from 8.4% in 2011 to 7.6% in 2013. (Bud Light remains the country’s most consumed beer, with an 18% market share.)
The only “craft” beer to make the top 20 is Blue Moon — a MillerCoors product.
But craft breweries are opening at an astonishing pace around the country. Between 2010 and 2013, The Brewers Association estimates 836 new microbreweries opened their doors. All totaled, there are more than 2,800 in operation today.
“New breweries consistently find ways to produce innovative, differentiated products,” said Brewers Association chief economist Bart Watson. “The American beer lover increasingly is demanding fuller-flavored offerings from small, independent, local producers.”
Posted on 2/2/15 at 12:12 pm to Tigertown in ATL
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maintaining the cult.
Good lord.You try way too hard.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 12:15 pm to Tigertown in ATL
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You must run in some rough crowds!
I meant on here
"What is the worst kind of snob?" thread a while back had people going crazy on beer people. Of course, I keep in mind that this is the internet and people are going to be dramatic.
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called trash, ignorant, tastless, etc.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 12:15 pm to Tigertown in ATL
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And there is the group that does the same thing if the only thing available is craft beer and the person chooses not to drink it.
I'd never have guests over and not have some macro stuff as an option, but if I ever did, beyond offering one of the micros that are more similar to BMC for them to try out, I'd just feel bad that I didn't have something that appealed to them. I certainly wouldn't think less of a person that I have invited to my home for not liking the beer that I like. Usually, the people in my group who preferred the BMC products would always at least try the craft stuff, and it's about 50/50 on the "huh, not bad" and "holy shite, this is terrible" reactions.
I'm also not a hardcore micro-brew aficionado, so maybe that's the difference.
That said, the difference in the two situations is that a craft beer drinker almost certainly would have tried the BMC offering in the past, and decided they didn't like it. Some BMC drinkers will never try other stuff, whether out of principle or some preconceived and unverified perception of craft beer.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 12:16 pm to GRTiger
Posted on 2/2/15 at 12:17 pm to notiger1997
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Good lord.You try way too hard.
I don't even know what that means.
I drink mostly craft beer when I'm not watching points/calories.
I'm not the one that said they hoped AMC drinkers wouldn't start liking craft beer. Sounds like cultic thinking to me.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 12:17 pm to BugAC
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— a move that proved to be both tone deaf and embarrassing for the company.
Not embarrassing at all. It was hilarious. Whoever wrote that is a hipster d-bag.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 12:21 pm to GRTiger
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I'd just feel bad that I didn't have something that appealed to them.
I'm with you. I had a large party and we had Sweetwater 420, Terrapin Rye and Wild Heaven.
I have a friend who only drinks Mich Ultra, so I picked up some of that for him.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 12:23 pm to BugAC
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The only “craft” beer to make the top 20 is Blue Moon — a MillerCoors product
shite like this is the reason people laugh at "craft beers". Blue Moon, Sierra Nevada, New Belgian, etc are made any no different than Budweiser, the factories are just a bit smaller. To call these still huge companies anything related to "craft" is a hilarious concept and a marketing coup in its own right.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 12:25 pm to cave canem
Blue Moon is owned by MillerCoors, so it's definitely not considered 'craft' anymore.
Sierra Nevada, New Belgium, and even Sam Adams are still considered craft because they are not BMC. They have huge distribution, sure, but they are all making a variety of beers, special releases, and don't pride themselves on a sales of a single beer (I.E. Budweiser and its lighter bretheren). They are still craft.
Your other point, that they are made no differently, is completely off base.
Sierra Nevada, New Belgium, and even Sam Adams are still considered craft because they are not BMC. They have huge distribution, sure, but they are all making a variety of beers, special releases, and don't pride themselves on a sales of a single beer (I.E. Budweiser and its lighter bretheren). They are still craft.
Your other point, that they are made no differently, is completely off base.
This post was edited on 2/2/15 at 12:30 pm
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