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Making your own stocks
Posted on 9/5/18 at 10:50 am
Posted on 9/5/18 at 10:50 am
Curious if those of you who have taken the time to make your own stocks, either just a couple times or consistently, feel it's worth the effort? I use store bought, usually Kitchen Essentials, and find that the flavors they add to dishes are definitely strong enough and tasty enough. But am I really missing out by not making my own? I understand homemade will taste better on its own, but can you really tell a difference when eating a finished dish?
Posted on 9/5/18 at 10:53 am to mmmmmbeeer
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But am I really missing out by not making my own?
Anyone that consistently puts the time into making their own is going to say you're missing out.
No one has ever told me my dishes that had premade stock were any worse than the times I've made my own.
Posted on 9/5/18 at 10:56 am to mmmmmbeeer
With a homemade stock, you can use different herbs and spices that affect the stock. Also, you can control the amount of salt.
I use store bought all the time, but if I have the bones of the animal, I'll go ahead an make my own.
I use store bought all the time, but if I have the bones of the animal, I'll go ahead an make my own.
Posted on 9/5/18 at 10:59 am to CoachChappy
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With a homemade stock, you can use different herbs and spices that affect the stock.
Also, you can control the amount of salt. I use store bought all the time, but if I have the bones of the animal, I'll go ahead an make my own.
These things make a big difference to my dumb arse.
Posted on 9/5/18 at 10:59 am to mmmmmbeeer
I make all my own stocks and it is not really time consuming while it's cooking away, but just a bit of effort once they are finished.
The stocks I make are chicken, fried turkey, beef, pork, shrimp, fish and I save the "oyster liquor" when I open oysters for use in soups and gumbos.
I will cook all stocks except seafood ones for about 12 hours before removing them from the fire and straining. Once they are strained, I'll let them cool and store them in the fridge overnight. The next day I'll remove the congealed fat from the top and what's left is more a jelly than liquid. This I'll put up in quart bags and freeze.
Seafood based stocks only cook for about an hour or so as I find they tend to become somewhat bitter if cooked a long time.
I haven't used plain water to cook much of what I fix in the kitchen in years and prefer to use stocks for an immediate flavor boost.
The stocks I make are chicken, fried turkey, beef, pork, shrimp, fish and I save the "oyster liquor" when I open oysters for use in soups and gumbos.
I will cook all stocks except seafood ones for about 12 hours before removing them from the fire and straining. Once they are strained, I'll let them cool and store them in the fridge overnight. The next day I'll remove the congealed fat from the top and what's left is more a jelly than liquid. This I'll put up in quart bags and freeze.
Seafood based stocks only cook for about an hour or so as I find they tend to become somewhat bitter if cooked a long time.
I haven't used plain water to cook much of what I fix in the kitchen in years and prefer to use stocks for an immediate flavor boost.
Posted on 9/5/18 at 11:00 am to mmmmmbeeer
I'll make my own shrimp or crawfish stock. I think it makes a huge difference in the richness of a dish if you take the time to make a stock beforehand.
Posted on 9/5/18 at 11:06 am to mmmmmbeeer
I make homemade stocks and use store bought. You can make a lot better stock than a store bought stock if you put your mind to it. But if you're just throwing a chicken in a pot I don't think there is much difference.
Posted on 9/5/18 at 11:12 am to gumbo2176
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I will cook all stocks except seafood ones for about 12 hours before removing them from the fire and straining.... what's left is more a jelly than liquid
this is what I do as well. I think the extra time to get the extra collagen out makes all the difference. and I will simmer a bit more aggressively on beef and pork stocks to emulsify the fats, kinda like a tonkatsu broth, I think that adds to the flavor. that said, I usually only do it for special occasions or big group things. day in, day out, boxed broth or stock is fine.
Posted on 9/5/18 at 11:18 am to mmmmmbeeer
I'll get fancy every once in a while and make stock. I used to go the long, slow method on the stove top. Now I use my instapot.
Weekday meals usually get the low-sodium better than bouillon paste treatment.
Weekday meals usually get the low-sodium better than bouillon paste treatment.
Posted on 9/5/18 at 11:19 am to Celtic Tiger
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I usually only do it for special occasions or big group things. day in, day out, boxed broth or stock is fine.
I'm retired, so I have the time to put in the effort. Besides, it makes the house "stink pretty" for hours on end. My wife walks in from work and the aroma hits her as soon as she comes inside and she knows something good is getting ready to happen.
Posted on 9/5/18 at 11:22 am to mmmmmbeeer
Depends on what I'm making.
If it's something where the flavor is really built on the stock like Pho or etoufee/gumbo, I'll make a stock.
Otherwise store bought it is. Trader Joe's has some pretty good ones btw.
If it's something where the flavor is really built on the stock like Pho or etoufee/gumbo, I'll make a stock.
Otherwise store bought it is. Trader Joe's has some pretty good ones btw.
Posted on 9/5/18 at 11:25 am to BottomlandBrew
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instapot
Pressure cookers are the quickest way to get a good rich stock.
Lots of good advice in this thread. Homemade stocks with the collagen give a shiny appearance to your dish and have a better mouth-feel in my opinion.
Posted on 9/5/18 at 11:35 am to Btrtigerfan
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and have a better mouth-feel
Slow down partner
Posted on 9/5/18 at 11:46 am to mmmmmbeeer
I make my own most of the time - especially with shrimp stock. If I have some shells left over from a dish and I have some veggies lying around that I'm not planning to use right away, I'll go ahead and make a batch to freeze. It doesn't take much time and it uses up stuff that may go bad before I get around to cooking with it. I also make beef stock and keep a bag of marrow bones and other trimmings in the freezer for that purpose. I usually don't make chicken stock but I will occasionally if I happen to have some bones and trimmings left over from another dish.
Posted on 9/5/18 at 11:48 am to BottomlandBrew
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'll get fancy every once in a while and make stock. I used to go the long, slow method on the stove top. Now I use my instapot.
Weekday meals usually get the low-sodium better than bouillon paste treatment.
That's me, too. I bother with stocks a few times a year, usually in cold weather & using a pressure cooker. During hot weather, most of my cooking veers away from soups/stews and into lighter-fresher quick cooking. So on the odd day when I need a little, it's Better than Bouillion.
Better than B makes a roasted mushroom paste...a nice change from chicken or beef.
Posted on 9/5/18 at 11:55 am to mmmmmbeeer
Currently in my freezer i have smoked turkey stock, chicken stock, shrimp stock and a ham hock stock.
They take very little effort to cook and i enjoy the added flavor and richness they bring.
I freeze them in bags with about 2 -3 cups per bag, so they are basically for one use.
I dont think box stocks are as tasty, but i have no problem using them im a pinch.
They take very little effort to cook and i enjoy the added flavor and richness they bring.
I freeze them in bags with about 2 -3 cups per bag, so they are basically for one use.
I dont think box stocks are as tasty, but i have no problem using them im a pinch.
Posted on 9/5/18 at 1:25 pm to mmmmmbeeer
I love having homemade stocks on hand. They taste good. A chicken stock for chicken soup is comforting. Beef stock for vegetable beef soup is the same. I'm crazy about a ham stock. I can eat that over rice in a bowl. I think a seafood or shrimp stock is necessary for a good seafood gumbo, but I can use store bought like Better than B for other dishes.
I keep a supply of Minor's bases in the freezer when I don't have a stock or need to shore up a stock. I like the low sodium options. You really have to watch the salt when using those bases.
Much of the time when I'm making a meat stock, I load up the 18 quart roaster and let it go overnight, cool and strain the next day, refrigerate and remove the fat and freeze. Sometimes, I'll reduce more before freezing.
I keep a supply of Minor's bases in the freezer when I don't have a stock or need to shore up a stock. I like the low sodium options. You really have to watch the salt when using those bases.
Much of the time when I'm making a meat stock, I load up the 18 quart roaster and let it go overnight, cool and strain the next day, refrigerate and remove the fat and freeze. Sometimes, I'll reduce more before freezing.
Posted on 9/5/18 at 1:34 pm to Gris Gris
I made a pork stock once and used it in jambalaya. Best jambalaya ever!
Posted on 9/5/18 at 2:06 pm to mmmmmbeeer
I have a pressure cooker that I use to make stocks for most of my cooking.
My favorite is to use oxtails to make a beef stock. You haven't lived until you taste a french onion soup made from oxtail stock.
My favorite is to use oxtails to make a beef stock. You haven't lived until you taste a french onion soup made from oxtail stock.
Posted on 9/5/18 at 2:39 pm to ruzil
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I have a pressure cooker that I use to make stocks for most of my cooking.
^^ This! Cool, strain, refrigerate, skim fat, freeze in quart bags. We like the idea of having stocks without salt or preservatives.
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