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re: John Besh Steps Down as Head of Restaurant Empire

Posted on 10/24/17 at 8:28 am to
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109446 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 8:28 am to
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Times Picayune has no credibility with me.


One of the more troubling aspects of this whole thing. A garbage company that has all but completely abandoned the city as far as having any real legit presence here, basically setting out on a mission to destroy a locally entrenched growing enterprise that employs 1000+.

So heroic.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
119453 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 8:33 am to
Yep. At the end of the day Besh will still be rich as hell whatever happens, if the TP has its way the losers in this will be employees and the city.
This post was edited on 10/24/17 at 8:34 am
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
37756 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 8:54 am to
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Because his food is straight up garbage.



not enough fried seafood at August for you?
This post was edited on 10/24/17 at 8:55 am
Posted by BrockLanders
By Appointment Only
Member since Sep 2008
6517 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 9:18 am to
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One of the more troubling aspects of this whole thing. A garbage company that has all but completely abandoned the city as far as having any real legit presence here, basically setting out on a mission to destroy a locally entrenched growing enterprise that employs 1000+. So heroic.



If the article is baseless, why do you think The Advocate decided to report the same thing?

And if it is a bunch of garbage, I would think Mr. Besh would be brewing up a lawsuit of his own.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109446 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 9:23 am to
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If the article is baseless, why do you think The Advocate decided to report the same thing?


I'm not saying it's baseless.

It's needlessly over the top by a long stretch, however.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61246 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 9:54 am to
LOL
Either that or the food doesn't fill him up enough and he leaves hungry
Posted by MeridianDog
Home on the range
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/24/17 at 10:02 am to
deleted. Sorry to offend.
This post was edited on 10/25/17 at 4:41 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 10/24/17 at 10:08 am to
I don't base my decisions off emotions.

That's not a defense of Besh and "his" organization, BTW.

ETA: I would however expect working in the service industry to come with a different level of "sexual" stuff to be expected compared to other jobs. Everyone I've ever talked to that works in the industry explains it as such.

ETA 2: Also not saying that the alleged actions are OK.
This post was edited on 10/24/17 at 10:19 am
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109446 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 10:12 am to
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I don't base my decisions off emotions.


Personally, I try not to make decisions on things that aren't my decision and I recognize that we have a (mostly) functioning legal justice system (both civil and criminal) that is designed to sort these things out.

And yes, I also submit:
quote:

That's not a defense of Besh and "his" organisation, BTW.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
36237 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 10:21 am to
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How many would be pissed off if their wife had no recourse when these things happened and there was nothing she could do about it, but really needed the job to help support the family.

Just work, right? What's the big deal? Right?

The first time something like that happens, report it. If nothing is done when you report it, then quit. Find another job. If you are working in a restaurant, it's probably not hard to find another similarly paying job.
Posted by Hat Tricks
Member since Oct 2003
28861 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 10:22 am to
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I wonder how many here would like to see their wife groped by some line cook grabbing her arse, breasts or between her legs after she was backed into a corner and then taunted about it day after day.

How many would be offended if their next door neighbor really screwed up at work and it was brushed aside with little more than a comment and then their wife did something minor and got her arse ripped in front of the entire work team.

How many would be pissed off if their wife had no recourse when these things happened and there was nothing she could do about it, but really needed the job to help support the family.

Just work, right? What's the big deal? Right?

What if the owner of the company was doing those things to your wife too?


I'm not sure why you're directing this response at me, MD. I'm not defending anybody over the alleged accusations. However, I would like to see what happens once the legal process plays its course. If it turns out the accusations are true then there absolutely should be consequence. I think until then everybody not involved should probably just settle down a bit.
Posted by greenwave
Member since Oct 2011
3879 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 10:23 am to
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basically setting out on a mission to destroy a locally entrenched growing enterprise that employs 1000+.


Na the Besh Group did that to themselves.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
49586 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 10:27 am to
I still have my Vernon Roger cookbook even after the diaper incident so I'll keep my Besh book.

Posted by whatchamacallit
Moulin Rouge
Member since Nov 2012
632 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 10:45 am to
I actually think working in that class of restaurant means those jobs aren't a dime a dozen. Why should someone have to quit for inappropriate behavior by management? I wouldn't quit. I would fight the behavior and if they fired me I'd kick it up a notch.
Posted by rmc
Truth or Consequences
Member since Sep 2004
27237 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 11:56 am to
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I still have my Vernon Roger cookbook even after the diaper incident so I'll keep my Besh book.


Is the Roger one good? And which Besh Book? Looking for good cookbooks here.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
36237 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 12:09 pm to
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Why should someone have to quit for inappropriate behavior by management?

Well, if you see they aren't going to do anything about it, and you feel really uncomfortable and it is not a safe place for you to work, then you should quit. I'm not saying that it has to stop at quitting, you can involve the legal system if it was serious, but you shouldn't keep putting yourself in that situation.
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
49636 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 1:24 pm to
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Well, if you see they aren't going to do anything about it, and you feel really uncomfortable and it is not a safe place for you to work, then you should quit. I'm not saying that it has to stop at quitting, you can involve the legal system if it was serious, but you shouldn't keep putting yourself in that situation.


That sounds simple, but it's not always that simple. Quitting means no job and no pay until you find another one, unless you can prove a right to unemployment compensation. Many folks can't afford that. Involving the legal system is slow and doesn't put food on the table.

I will be surprised if we see much in the way of litigation of these allegations. There's a lot of smoke out there. I won't be surprised if there are a lot of settlements which means we may never know what's fact or fiction.

Posted by MeridianDog
Home on the range
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/24/17 at 2:01 pm to
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This post was edited on 10/24/17 at 6:00 pm
Posted by Hat Tricks
Member since Oct 2003
28861 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 2:16 pm to
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I wasn't Hat. You started the thread and I clicked on the first post.


Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
88576 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 2:27 pm to
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That is not an emotional response as some her have mentioned.



Your whole post was nothing but appealing to emotion. I'm sorry it happened to your wife, but that's what your post was.

The act is bad enough without having to appeal to emotion. Would it be less worse if it happened to your son?

This post was edited on 10/24/17 at 2:28 pm
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