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re: Gumbo recipes
Posted on 10/17/24 at 9:27 am to Faurot fodder
Posted on 10/17/24 at 9:27 am to Faurot fodder
quote:
I've decided on making gumbo Saturday for the game. I fully expect some bullshite answers, but if anyone has a legitimate, kick-arse recipe, I'm all ears.
I do Donald Link's recipe with a couple small changes depending on the circumstances.
Donald Link's Friend Chicken and Andouille Gumbo
Changes:
If I am short on time I buy a rotisserie chicken and skip frying the chicken. I will throw the chicken in near the last 15-20 minutes of cooking on low. this happens more often than not. I usually do use the rotisserie chicken bones to make stock.
I also use non andouille smoked sausage if I am not in the mood for andouille. Just depends on the day.
This post was edited on 10/17/24 at 9:29 am
Posted on 10/17/24 at 9:28 am to Faurot fodder
Always used Savoie's premade roux which makes it thicc and dark if you put the right amount. Mama told me growing up only poor people make their own roux.
Moved to TN recently and didn't have access to Savoie's because amazon was going to take too long to ship it when we needed, so we made our own roux. Took about 45-1 hour and didn't taste any different than cheating with Savoie's.
I also think the sausage used makes a huge difference. We only use Market Basket green onion from Lake Charles.
Moved to TN recently and didn't have access to Savoie's because amazon was going to take too long to ship it when we needed, so we made our own roux. Took about 45-1 hour and didn't taste any different than cheating with Savoie's.
I also think the sausage used makes a huge difference. We only use Market Basket green onion from Lake Charles.
Posted on 10/17/24 at 9:34 am to Faurot fodder
Watch both the Cajun Ninja and Stalekracker videos on chicken and sausage gumbo and go from there.
I personally use a 1 to 1 ratio of flour and oil but have heard of people using 2/3 cup of flour to 1 cup of flour.
I use chicken thighs and for extra depth of flavor, I smoke them. My wife hates andouille sausage and prefers a smoked sausage.
I personally use a 1 to 1 ratio of flour and oil but have heard of people using 2/3 cup of flour to 1 cup of flour.
I use chicken thighs and for extra depth of flavor, I smoke them. My wife hates andouille sausage and prefers a smoked sausage.
Posted on 10/17/24 at 10:08 am to MikeTheTiger11
quote:
we made our own roux. Took about 45-1 hour and didn't taste any different than cheating with Savoie's.
people get high and mighty over making their own roux, which is laughable. it's fricking oil and flour
Posted on 10/17/24 at 10:52 am to Carson123987
quote:
I've got better shite to do than babysit a roux for 45min
Sounds like you make a terrible gumbo.
Posted on 10/17/24 at 11:04 am to jmon
quote:
Sounds like you make a terrible gumbo.
Sounds like you're retarded. It's okay, I used to be a homemade roux elitist too, until one day I used Kary's in a pinch for time and realized there's literally 0 fricking difference (again, because it’s flour and oil lol)
We've won the Crowley gumbo cookoff twice, once with Savoie's roux and once with Kary's roux.
This post was edited on 10/17/24 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 10/17/24 at 11:07 am to Faurot fodder
Posted on 10/17/24 at 11:20 am to Faurot fodder
Paul Prudhomme's original recipe for his fried chicken and andouille gumbo is well worth and very easy.
Makes 6 main-dish or 10 appetizer servings
One 2- to 3-pound chicken, cut up
Salt
Garlic powder
Ground red pepper (preferably cayenne)
1 cup finely chopped onions
1 cup finely chopped green bell peppers
3/4 cup finely chopped celery
1 1/4 cups all-purpose flour
1/2 teaspoon salt
1/2 teaspoon garlic powder
1/2 teaspoon ground red pepper
(preferably cayenne)
Vegetable oil for deep frying
About 7 cups chicken stock
1/2 pound andouille smoked sausage
(preferred) or any other good
pure smoked pork sausage such as
Polish sausage (kielbasa), cut
into 1/4-inch cubes
1 teaspoon minced garlic
Hot cooked rice
Remove excess fat from the chicken pieces. Rub a generous amount of
salt, garlic powder and red pepper on both sides of each pieces, making
sure each is evenly covered. Let stand at room temperature for 30 minutes.
Meanwhile, in a medium-size bowl combine the onions, bell peppers and celery; set aside.
Combine the flour, 1/2 teaspoon salt, 1/2 teaspoon garlic powder, and 1/2 teaspoon red pepper in a paper or plastic bag. Add the chicken pieces and shake until chicken is well coated. Reserve 1/2 cup of the flour.
In a large heavy skillet heat 1 1/2 inches of oil until very hot (375 to 400 degrees F). Fry the chicken until crust is brown on both sides and meat is cooked, about 5 to 8 minutes per side; drain on paper towels. Carefully
pour the hot oil into a glass measuring cup, leaving as many of the browned particles in the pan as possible. Scrape the bottom with a metal whisk to loosen any stuck particles, then return 1/2 cup of the hot oil to the pan.
Place pan over high heat. Using a long-handled metal whisk, gradually stir
in the reserved 1/2 cup flour. Cook, whisking constantly, until roux is dark
red-brown to black, about 3 1/2 to 4 minutes, being careful not to let it
scorch or splash on your skin. Remove from heat and immediately add the
reserved vegetable mixture, stirring constantly until the roux stops getting
darker. Return pan to low heat and cook until vegetables are soft, about
5 minutes, stirring constantly and scraping the pan bottom well.
Meanwhile, place the stock in a 5 1/2-quart saucepan or large Dutch oven. Bring to a boil. Add roux mixture by spoonfuls to the boiling stock, stirring until dissolved between each addition. Return to a boil, stirring and scraping pan bottom often. Reduce heat to a simmer and stir in the andouille and minced garlic. Simmer uncovered for about 45 minutes, stirring often
toward the end of the cooking time.
While the gumbo is simmering, bone the cooked chicken and cut the
meat into 1/2-inch dice. When the gumbo is cooked, stir in the chicken
and adjust seasoning with salt and pepper. Serve immediately.
To serve as a main course, mound 1/3 cup cooked rice in the center of a
soup bowl; ladle about 1 1/4 cups gumbo around the rice. For an appetizer,
place 1 heaping teaspoon cooked rice in a cup and ladle about 3/4 cup
gumbo on top.
Below is an old post I made about it some years ago. I will add that when I fry the chicken, I used either Better than Bouillon Chicken Base or cartons of chicken stock. I simmer the thigh bones, after frying the chicken, in the stock.
Its a wonderful guide. You can opt to fry, roast,smoke, bake or boil the chicken or you can simply buy a store bought roasted chicken or a smoked one from a bbq joint if you wish. Just pay attention to what seasonings were used. Don't buy a lemon pepper roasted chicken for example.
You can still use the jar of roux if you like and just warm it so you can saute the veggies in it a bit. If you want to try an oven roux, search that term.There's a thread on it. It's very easy.
You'll notice he doesn't cook the hell out of the gumbo. All this simmering it a long time or all day is for the birds and your sausage might get a bit dry in addition to your chicken becoming too stringy.
Some folks brown the sausage first and that's fine if you prefer that. I don't do that. I like the sausage flavor and juices to go into the gumbo, personally.
PP's measurements are a good guide. His book says 7-10 cups liquid to 1/2 cup oil and flour each. Just depends on how thick or thin you want your gumbo.
Makes 6 main-dish or 10 appetizer servings
One 2- to 3-pound chicken, cut up
Salt
Garlic powder
Ground red pepper (preferably cayenne)
1 cup finely chopped onions
1 cup finely chopped green bell peppers
3/4 cup finely chopped celery
1 1/4 cups all-purpose flour
1/2 teaspoon salt
1/2 teaspoon garlic powder
1/2 teaspoon ground red pepper
(preferably cayenne)
Vegetable oil for deep frying
About 7 cups chicken stock
1/2 pound andouille smoked sausage
(preferred) or any other good
pure smoked pork sausage such as
Polish sausage (kielbasa), cut
into 1/4-inch cubes
1 teaspoon minced garlic
Hot cooked rice
Remove excess fat from the chicken pieces. Rub a generous amount of
salt, garlic powder and red pepper on both sides of each pieces, making
sure each is evenly covered. Let stand at room temperature for 30 minutes.
Meanwhile, in a medium-size bowl combine the onions, bell peppers and celery; set aside.
Combine the flour, 1/2 teaspoon salt, 1/2 teaspoon garlic powder, and 1/2 teaspoon red pepper in a paper or plastic bag. Add the chicken pieces and shake until chicken is well coated. Reserve 1/2 cup of the flour.
In a large heavy skillet heat 1 1/2 inches of oil until very hot (375 to 400 degrees F). Fry the chicken until crust is brown on both sides and meat is cooked, about 5 to 8 minutes per side; drain on paper towels. Carefully
pour the hot oil into a glass measuring cup, leaving as many of the browned particles in the pan as possible. Scrape the bottom with a metal whisk to loosen any stuck particles, then return 1/2 cup of the hot oil to the pan.
Place pan over high heat. Using a long-handled metal whisk, gradually stir
in the reserved 1/2 cup flour. Cook, whisking constantly, until roux is dark
red-brown to black, about 3 1/2 to 4 minutes, being careful not to let it
scorch or splash on your skin. Remove from heat and immediately add the
reserved vegetable mixture, stirring constantly until the roux stops getting
darker. Return pan to low heat and cook until vegetables are soft, about
5 minutes, stirring constantly and scraping the pan bottom well.
Meanwhile, place the stock in a 5 1/2-quart saucepan or large Dutch oven. Bring to a boil. Add roux mixture by spoonfuls to the boiling stock, stirring until dissolved between each addition. Return to a boil, stirring and scraping pan bottom often. Reduce heat to a simmer and stir in the andouille and minced garlic. Simmer uncovered for about 45 minutes, stirring often
toward the end of the cooking time.
While the gumbo is simmering, bone the cooked chicken and cut the
meat into 1/2-inch dice. When the gumbo is cooked, stir in the chicken
and adjust seasoning with salt and pepper. Serve immediately.
To serve as a main course, mound 1/3 cup cooked rice in the center of a
soup bowl; ladle about 1 1/4 cups gumbo around the rice. For an appetizer,
place 1 heaping teaspoon cooked rice in a cup and ladle about 3/4 cup
gumbo on top.
Below is an old post I made about it some years ago. I will add that when I fry the chicken, I used either Better than Bouillon Chicken Base or cartons of chicken stock. I simmer the thigh bones, after frying the chicken, in the stock.
Its a wonderful guide. You can opt to fry, roast,smoke, bake or boil the chicken or you can simply buy a store bought roasted chicken or a smoked one from a bbq joint if you wish. Just pay attention to what seasonings were used. Don't buy a lemon pepper roasted chicken for example.
You can still use the jar of roux if you like and just warm it so you can saute the veggies in it a bit. If you want to try an oven roux, search that term.There's a thread on it. It's very easy.
You'll notice he doesn't cook the hell out of the gumbo. All this simmering it a long time or all day is for the birds and your sausage might get a bit dry in addition to your chicken becoming too stringy.
Some folks brown the sausage first and that's fine if you prefer that. I don't do that. I like the sausage flavor and juices to go into the gumbo, personally.
PP's measurements are a good guide. His book says 7-10 cups liquid to 1/2 cup oil and flour each. Just depends on how thick or thin you want your gumbo.
Posted on 10/17/24 at 11:47 am to CharlotteSooner
quote:
I gave him a work-around to standing there stirring roux for 45 minutes that I got from a chef's recipe. We make it quite often and it's fantastic.
That's fine. It probably is good. You're not losing much flavor profile unless the fat is duck fat or bacon grease. But, and I hate to be this board cliche, it's not gumbo. That oven method can work to make a real roux though, and the rest of the recipe is good.
Posted on 10/17/24 at 1:04 pm to Carson123987
quote:
Sounds like you're retarded.
quote:
We've won the Crowley gumbo cookoff twice
quote:
Crowley
If you hate your family so much that you serve them jarred roux, well then, just buy a rotisserie chicken and pre-cut veggies and complete the gumbo disaster!
Posted on 10/17/24 at 1:56 pm to jmon
You’re not too bright, are you? Keep telling yourself that your 1:1 mixture of oil and flour is different than a commercial kitchen’s 1:1 mixture of oil and flour
Won’t change the reality of it, but it may help you sleep better in your low-IQ fantasy world
Posted on 10/17/24 at 2:07 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
You could use a jarred roux.
Whoops, I see the pot has already been stirred on this topic.
Whoops, I see the pot has already been stirred on this topic.
This post was edited on 10/17/24 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 10/17/24 at 2:23 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
quote:
I do have a bag of flour though and I'm ready to try again
Make sure to use All-Purpose flour and not Self-Rising Flour for your roux.
Not all flours are created the same and All-Purpose is the go-to in this case.
Posted on 10/17/24 at 2:26 pm to Carson123987
Not taking advice from a texan about gumbo, especially the abomination of a recipe you have described.
Queers and steers, my friend.
Queers and steers, my friend.
Posted on 10/17/24 at 3:07 pm to jmon
quote:
Not taking advice from a texan about gumbo
born and raised in Acadiana bud, still live in LA. I forgot more about cajun cooking than you will ever know
quote:
especially the abomination of a recipe you have described.
I haven't made a single comment in this thread about gumbo recipes. Just called out the laughable assertion that homemade roux is better than jarred
This post was edited on 10/17/24 at 4:13 pm
Posted on 10/17/24 at 4:11 pm to Faurot fodder
I’ve gotten lazy and just use this unless I’m making a huge batch:
Posted on 10/17/24 at 7:03 pm to Carson123987
quote:
homemade roux is better than jarred
It is.
quote:
I forgot more about cajun cooking than you will ever know
Oh STFU. You “land Cajuns” are about the most insufferable people in the state.
This post was edited on 10/17/24 at 8:53 pm
Posted on 10/18/24 at 11:27 pm to Faurot fodder
I recommend Kary's roux in a jar. You can get it from Amazon. Someone here told me about it (forgot who) and it came out better than expected.
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