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re: District Donuts posted an apology on IG

Posted on 6/12/20 at 3:48 pm to
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 3:48 pm to
I think you are correct that most businesses don't hire outside of their comfort zone, in the case of service industry their comfort zone is having friends of workers apply and be vouched for. That in itself leads to homogeneous workforce since most people don't have as diverse a friend group as they would believe.

I work in a situation where the force is divided into teams. These teams naturally segregate themselves, usually black/white, even if we place efforts to prevent that from happening. Usually this segregation is carried out from both sides. It makes me wonder what efforts someone will have to bring forward in the hiring/hr practices to prevent this.

Someone running a coffee shop is going to spend a large amount of time monitoring civil rights microaggressions instead of making me a cup of coffee. All setting themselves up for an employee to burn them at the stake a couple years down the road.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
74473 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 4:10 pm to
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Ultimately, I have to believe (maybe I am wrong), the majority of these small businesses are hiring the best possible candidate for the job. Their livelihood depends on it.


Yes

The pickings are already slim. Any smart operation would welcome more candidates

The opportunities to advance are often there, but many cannot even check the most basic boxes - can you show up on time, on days you’re supposed to work, aren’t an a-hole and respect others. So I see these people in this guy’s comments saying they couldn’t advance - I would bet their employer can tell you why. I can tell ya White people are turning over in the restaurant industry the same way as blacks. Most of the times they just don’t want to fulfill their commitment to actually show up and work
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
83165 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 4:14 pm to
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Sherman Klump



I agree. It is a chicken-egg scenario.

People want to work around people they get along with easily via shared experiences/interests. That's why the people who work at Popeyes apply to Popeyes and why the people who work at CFA apply to CFA. Unfortunate as it may be, race factors in to how comfortable people are around each other.

This has been proven time and time again when you put a mixed group of people together.
Posted by Matisyeezy
End of the bar, Drunk
Member since Feb 2012
16638 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 6:20 pm to
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So if individuals aren't applying because they aren't comfortable, how do you suggest these businesses go about hiring diverse individuals?



I think I spoke to that with the idea that you hire multiple people of color and have them represented throughout the workplace. I'm speculating, of course, but if you knew that in six months time a third of the employees looked like you/had things in common with you, wouldn't that make you more likely to apply? That or you intentionally hire multiple people of color and bring them in at the same time. I feel like there are ways to do this if you truly want to, but you have to actually want to.
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
83165 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 6:45 pm to
I think what they’re saying is that even if you said, “Next person I hire will be black”.. but then nobody black applies, what can you do? Advertising that you want a person of color to apply won’t go over well so you’re kinda stuck just waiting.

At larger places, surely a variety people apply. But in a small place? It’s likely you never get varies applicants.
This post was edited on 6/12/20 at 6:46 pm
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79744 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 6:54 pm to
A place like a brewery or bar that employees 10 people will be hard to bring on 3 new POC at one time.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
30763 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 8:17 pm to
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I hope he gets his arse sued

He had deleted some stuff, I wonder if he got threatened


He won't, most will just threaten him. They know backlash from a law suit would fit his narrative.

Sometimes for the Owner, it's best to make a gentleman's agreement, you delete the stuff, i won't contact a lawyer.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79744 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 8:20 pm to
Best to just ignore him and ignore the backlash on social media.

Just don't post anything for a couple weeks and let them move on to their next target.
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
13179 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 8:09 pm to
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Advertising that you want a person of color to apply won’t go over well

I'm pretty sure that is against the law
Posted by Cash
Vail
Member since Feb 2005
37641 posts
Posted on 6/14/20 at 4:22 pm to
Never apologize. Once you do it they see weakness and will never stop asking.

Trump and the NRA understand this. Don’t give an inch.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
74473 posts
Posted on 6/14/20 at 5:22 pm to
Going after Alon Shaya now
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79744 posts
Posted on 6/14/20 at 5:40 pm to
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Going after Alon Shaya now


Least surprising of all of this.

Shaya is the type to sue though.
Posted by tewino
Member since Aug 2009
2546 posts
Posted on 6/14/20 at 7:03 pm to
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Going after Alon Shaya now


What did he do?
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79744 posts
Posted on 6/14/20 at 7:14 pm to
Karma for his fallout with Besh
Posted by TigerWise
Front Seat of an Uber
Member since Sep 2010
35132 posts
Posted on 6/14/20 at 7:18 pm to
What if you don’t believe in karma ?
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79744 posts
Posted on 6/14/20 at 7:24 pm to
There's no other explanation why bad shite happens to people.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
74473 posts
Posted on 6/16/20 at 10:14 am to
Blue Giant is today’s attempt at canceling a nola restaurant. I can’t believe these are real life people
Posted by TigerWise
Front Seat of an Uber
Member since Sep 2010
35132 posts
Posted on 6/16/20 at 10:17 am to
Can’t wait for this dude to step to someone that isn’t a snowflake.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
74473 posts
Posted on 6/16/20 at 10:24 am to
Wish chef rob was still around for times like these
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
14529 posts
Posted on 6/16/20 at 10:26 am to
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Blue Giant is today’s attempt at canceling a nola restaurant.


The same restaurant that has posted numerous "frick the police" memes?
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