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Posted on 5/18/23 at 5:26 am to tadman
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The reality of NOLA tourist budgets means it's hard to meet the service and ingredient level required to get even one star.
Is this a reflection of the city or the tourist?
Posted on 5/18/23 at 8:27 am to Deactived
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The reality of NOLA tourist budgets means it's hard to meet the service and ingredient level required to get even one star.
Is this a reflection of the city or the tourist?
Both. The fact is that the vast majority of "fine" dining in NOLA caters to 10% trade show attendees, 80% French quarter tourists, and 10% residents looking to splurge. As such they do not have the pricing that can cover the top level service and ingredient quality expected in NY, London, Chicago, etc...
It's not a bad thing. I don't even like those places. I've been to a handful of Michelin star places in the last few years and never really enjoyed myself that much.
Posted on 5/18/23 at 8:33 am to fightin tigers
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What are your top 3 restaurants to get a 1 or 2 star?
Perhaps I was misleading, I don't think there are any.
Also, the Michelin star rating is a bit different than the Yelp 5 star scale. At Yelp, a 1 star is a terrible rating while 5 star is good.
At Michelin, only the absolute top restaurants are eligible to even be reviewed. If we were to compare the Yelp star scale with the Michelin star scale, you would need 50 Yelp stars to even be considered for a Michelin star.
Posted on 5/18/23 at 8:35 am to Pettifogger
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ordered a half bottle of wine
placed a fork under the table
This reference took longer than I expected
Posted on 5/18/23 at 9:20 am to tadman
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Perhaps I was misleading, I don't think there are any.
Also, the Michelin star rating is a bit different than the Yelp 5 star scale. At Yelp, a 1 star is a terrible rating while 5 star is good.
At Michelin, only the absolute top restaurants are eligible to even be reviewed. If we were to compare the Yelp star scale with the Michelin star scale, you would need 50 Yelp stars to even be considered for a Michelin star.
Bro just Michelinsplained the rating system 40 posts into a thread about the guide as if no one else knew a Michelin 1 star is not a Yelp 1 star.
Posted on 5/18/23 at 9:57 am to Fun Bunch
If Hereford honed in on a fine fining scene, or at least his interpretation of one, he absolutely could. He understands how to make a specific ambiance and his flavors/combinations are original and top notch. Could see him deciding to go that route eventually.
Posted on 5/18/23 at 10:52 am to Damone
If Michelin comes to town, he will. He will hipster pretend to not care about that adulation, but of course everything he does says "give me that adulation".
I'm just not sure they will actually come. They are definitely interested. I think they realize they have to branch out a bit more and do guides on a wider ranger of places, that don't necessarily include Starred restaurants.
I think you will see us get in there eventually, but not with any Starred restaurants. Bib Gourmand and watchlist, some kind of "Classics" list.
I think they want to crack open the door and then see how the dining scene checks out in a few years. Once they are in you are going to see people Star chasing
I'm just not sure they will actually come. They are definitely interested. I think they realize they have to branch out a bit more and do guides on a wider ranger of places, that don't necessarily include Starred restaurants.
I think you will see us get in there eventually, but not with any Starred restaurants. Bib Gourmand and watchlist, some kind of "Classics" list.
I think they want to crack open the door and then see how the dining scene checks out in a few years. Once they are in you are going to see people Star chasing
Posted on 5/18/23 at 12:28 pm to Fun Bunch
Had a meal at Rocca in Tampa a few months ago. Gorgeous space (industrial but done well) and perfectly executed pastas, wonderful service, cool wines. Was it noticeably better than say Herbsaint or La Petite? Not really. All are very well run restaurants executing on a specific vision. If Michelin decides to come to New Orleans or Houston, it will find stars.
As an aside I thought Surf Club was 90% as good as the meal I had at The French Laundry but it only has one star. And that TFL is one of my favorites of all time.
Made a reservation at Rocca a few weeks ago for an upcoming trip (pre-announcement). So will kick the proverbial and puny tires again.
As an aside I thought Surf Club was 90% as good as the meal I had at The French Laundry but it only has one star. And that TFL is one of my favorites of all time.
Made a reservation at Rocca a few weeks ago for an upcoming trip (pre-announcement). So will kick the proverbial and puny tires again.
This post was edited on 5/18/23 at 7:39 pm
Posted on 5/19/23 at 8:53 am to lionward2014
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Bro just Michelinsplained the rating system 40 posts into a thread about the guide as if no one else knew a Michelin 1 star is not a Yelp 1 star.
I mean there was more than a few posts mentinioning that they would give multiple Michelin stars to NOLA restaurants. I do not see how that is possible other than people not understanding this isn't a Yelp-like grading system where you give five stars if the place doesn't serve cat food.
It was obvious that people did not understand that even one Michelin star is a tremendous accolade and not a low grade.
This post was edited on 5/19/23 at 8:54 am
Posted on 5/19/23 at 9:11 am to tadman
I agree, any place in NOLA would have difficulty getting a star.
I think Saint Germain could but they would have to elevate their service a little bit more.
I think Saint Germain could but they would have to elevate their service a little bit more.
Posted on 5/19/23 at 9:29 am to tadman
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I mean there was more than a few posts mentinioning that they would give multiple Michelin stars to NOLA restaurants. I do not see how that is possible other than people not understanding this isn't a Yelp-like grading system where you give five stars if the place doesn't serve cat food.
It was obvious that people did not understand that even one Michelin star is a tremendous accolade and not a low grade.
Bro everyone here has been to a Michelin starred restaurant before.
ALso, these threads always make me lament that I never made it to Stella. I really think that if it were to open now, it would make it as a business.
This post was edited on 5/19/23 at 9:55 am
Posted on 5/19/23 at 9:30 am to REG861
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Bro everyone here has been to a Michelin starred restaurant before
Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Posted on 5/19/23 at 9:51 am to REG861
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Bro everyone here has been to a Michelin starred restaurant before
Nope
Posted on 5/19/23 at 9:52 am to tadman
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I mean there was more than a few posts mentinioning that they would give multiple Michelin stars to NOLA restaurants.
I agree no where in the city would get multiple stars. Lazy Bear is the only multi-star place I have been, and nothing in NOLA could even sniff the food and service of that place.
That said, I've been to numerous 1 stars and Bib places both in the US and Europe, and I think there are a fair amount of places in NOLA that are equal to or better than those places. The only hurdle would be service. I could see them not giving stars in an initial run and telling the Bib places they award to step up service, and then in year 2 some places receive a star.
Posted on 5/19/23 at 9:59 am to tadman
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It was obvious that people did not understand that even one Michelin star is a tremendous accolade and not a low grade.
I’ve been to many Michelin rated restaurants, including 4-5 3 star places and the number one restaurant in the world (until they created the “Best of the Best” category for previous #1s). I can tell you there are places in NOLA that could be 1-star, and MAYBE one or two that could contend for a 2-star. But there isn’t a 3-star contender in the city.
This post was edited on 5/19/23 at 10:03 am
Posted on 5/19/23 at 10:06 am to AbitaFan08
I think of the old La Provence on the northshore as a 1 star. That was a cool place.
Posted on 5/19/23 at 10:21 am to REG861
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I really think that if it were to open now, it would make it as a business.
I'm not sure it would. If Scott (a fantastic restaurateur) couldn't make it, in the Post Katrina boon that the FQ was having, I don't see it surviving today. Unfortunately we as a society are trending more causal than elegant, especially in Nola. Hell you can get away with dinner at Galatoire's without a jacket now. NOLA is not really attracting the right clientele for white gloved servers. And with what you would have to charge per plate to even scare a profit, it would only be a special occasion place for locals.
Posted on 5/19/23 at 10:25 am to AbitaFan08
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But there isn’t a 3-star contender in the city [New Orleans].
When you look at the list of 3-stars in the U.S., it is easily obvious that there aren't many 3-star calibre restaurants in this country. Plenty of 1-2s, but not may 3s.
Posted on 5/19/23 at 10:35 am to AbitaFan08
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I’ve been to many Michelin rated restaurants, including 4-5 3 star places and the number one restaurant in the world (until they created the “Best of the Best” category for previous #1s). I can tell you there are places in NOLA that could be 1-star, and MAYBE one or two that could contend for a 2-star. But there isn’t a 3-star contender in the city.
I've been to a decent amount of Michelin places and I do not think there is any place that would come close to a 2 star. Certainly not 3.
I think even 1 star is stretching it. Saint Germain maybe, maybe a place like Coquette could get there? Revolution?
I haven't been to Emeril's in a long time so I can't speak to their current incarnation
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