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re: Why is everyone concerned with N.O. and Baton Rouge?
Posted on 5/11/11 at 3:59 pm to DEANintheYAY
Posted on 5/11/11 at 3:59 pm to DEANintheYAY
quote:The Army Corps of Engineers has said the water levels are the highest in 80 years.
My mom and my sister's houses should be good. They didn't flood in 1973 and shouldn't now.
What I deduce from this is the water levels are higher than in 1973, so I don't believe anyone can assume that not flooding in 1973 means not flooding in 2011.
My sister lived in Morgan City in 1973. The water flooded her street and came within inches of flooding the house.
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Posted on 5/11/11 at 4:06 pm to lsuhunt555
Another reason to open the Morganza Spillway and divert Mississippi River water.
Between Baton Rouge and New Orleans there are a number of refineries that would be at risk of flooding. They refine about 2.4 million barrels of oil per day and produce 13.7% of the US gas supply.
Between Baton Rouge and New Orleans there are a number of refineries that would be at risk of flooding. They refine about 2.4 million barrels of oil per day and produce 13.7% of the US gas supply.
Posted on 5/11/11 at 4:18 pm to shoelessjoe
is this a serious question?
Posted on 5/11/11 at 4:33 pm to LSUMJ
I guess the thing that frustrates me is the people in charge saying that people should have realized that they could flood when they built their homes and businesses where they did concerning where I live. Well no shite. But did anyone in New Orleans or Baton Rouge have to worry about that? If you ask me they should have also. They live in a fish bowl and should realize that in a situation like this it could affect them. I understand the reasoning why but it still shocks me how its all about New Orleans and no one seems to care about the smaller towns.
Posted on 5/11/11 at 4:45 pm to shoelessjoe
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shoelessjoe
Without New Orleans and Baton Rouge, there are no small cities in Louisiana, because there is no Louisiana. Everywhere in the world has natural risks. Baton Rouge and New Orleans are vital areas and have been protected as such. One of the ways of protecting these two cities is by a man-made flood basin. You happen to live in this flood basin. You, I assume, knew about this flood basin before you settled in to your life there. Unfortunately for you, if anywhere out of Baton Rouge, New Orleans, and the Morgan City area flood, the very first one is going to be Morgan City. People in Baton Rouge and New Orleans do incur the risk of natural disasters and they have both had their fair share. You, on the other hand, live in an area built to diminish the affect of a flood for the two other cities. I empathize with your situation, and wish you and everyone else the best, but your stance is the same as someone who builds a house next to a paper mill and complains about the smell when the wind blows.
Posted on 5/11/11 at 4:45 pm to shoelessjoe
quote:
But did anyone in New Orleans or Baton Rouge have to worry about that?
yes, they did. Then they built a spillway to solve that problem. Come on man.
Posted on 5/11/11 at 4:45 pm to shoelessjoe
quote:
I guess the thing that frustrates me is the people in charge saying that people should have realized that they could flood when they built their homes and businesses where they did concerning where I live. Well no shite. But did anyone in New Orleans or Baton Rouge have to worry about that? If you ask me they should have also. They live in a fish bowl and should realize that in a situation like this it could affect them. I understand the reasoning why but it still shocks me how its all about New Orleans and no one seems to care about the smaller towns.
Allowing the Lower Mississippi to flood anywhere between Baton Rouge and New Orleans would be catastrophic to a huge sector of the US economy for decades. Flooding the Morganza Spillway/Atch. Basin affects a lot less people/machinery/production.
People in the Morganza Spillway had knowledge that one day their land would be flooded to save the Lower Mississippi. Not only that, but they were duly compensated by the federal government in the form of easements.
Posted on 5/11/11 at 4:52 pm to shoelessjoe
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how its all about New Orleans and no one seems to care about the smaller towns.
Dude.....seriously?!
I live in Bunkie, so I know a thing or two about small towns, but to think for one second they would be more worried about a place like Bunkie vs Baton Rouge or NOLA is about the dumbest thing anyone has asked in this entire situation.
Posted on 5/11/11 at 4:55 pm to shoelessjoe
quote:
but it still shocks me how its all about New Orleans and no one seems to care about the smaller towns.
Why? its all about money and people. Small towns will always get the short end of the stick. BR and NO bring way more to the table. Its just the way it is and will always be.
Posted on 5/11/11 at 5:04 pm to kfizzle85
quote:
yes, they did. Then they built a spillway to solve that problem. Come on man.
Posted on 5/11/11 at 5:08 pm to knorth
quote:
Between Baton Rouge and New Orleans there are a number of refineries that would be at risk of flooding. They refine about 2.4 million barrels of oil per day and produce 13.7% of the US gas supply.
Right. It has to do with a whole hell of a lot more than just the notion that they're trying to protect a bunch of spoiled "city folk."
Posted on 5/11/11 at 5:29 pm to Y.A. Tittle
quote:
Right. It has to do with a whole hell of a lot more than just the notion that they're trying to protect a bunch of spoiled "city folk."
Spoiled city folk? I guess all us spoiled city folk in New Orleans would know nothing about losing everything in a flood.
It is easier to relocate 100,000 people from the rural areas than it is 1,500,000 from the two metro areas. It is cheaper to replace infrastructure and housing for 100,000 than it is for 1,500,000.
Posted on 5/11/11 at 5:34 pm to Barbster
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Spoiled city folk? I guess all us spoiled city folk in New Orleans would know nothing about losing everything in a flood.
It is easier to relocate 100,000 people from the rural areas than it is 1,500,000 from the two metro areas. It is cheaper to replace infrastructure and housing for 100,000 than it is for 1,500,000.
Talk about whiffing on a point.
Posted on 5/11/11 at 5:36 pm to Y.A. Tittle
quote:
Talk about whiffing on a point.
I was going to say something but I figured you could handle it yourself
Posted on 5/11/11 at 5:54 pm to tgrbaitn08
Call me selfish but why not open bayou lafourche a little? We could use the flow.
Posted on 5/11/11 at 6:00 pm to T Ba Doe Tiger
quote:
Call me selfish but why not open bayou lafourche a little? We could use the flow
the amount of water that they would let thro is extremely small, wouldn't do much and it would flood all the towns down the bayou.. cut off, larose, etc
Posted on 5/11/11 at 6:06 pm to bayoudude
quote:
Which is why I am a little frustrated with the pussy footing about opening the Morganza. They know what will happen if they don't so why put that much more strain on the levees. Start relieving it now!
Giving folks every second to prepare.
It isn't pussy footing.
The water flow hasn't even reached the level to warrent opening it per the plan.
Posted on 5/11/11 at 6:12 pm to shoelessjoe
You ever seen a whole city under water? Recall Katrina? I don't want looters trying to kill my people. Or better yet I don't like the smell of tons of dead bodies. I still recall the smell when clearing out Tulane Hospital.
Posted on 5/11/11 at 7:00 pm to Volvagia
quote:But its getting close.
The water flow hasn't even reached the level to warrent opening it per the plan.
In the great flood of 1927, the water level at Red River Landing reached 60.90 feet. It was at 60.24 at 17:00 CDT.
The trigger point for opening the Morganza Spillway is 1.5 million cubic feet per second at Red River Landing. The latest flow measurement was 1.44 million cubic feet per second.
NWS graph: Mississippi River at Red River Landing
Posted on 5/11/11 at 7:27 pm to RummelTiger
quote:
Are you serious with this question?
Yeh...I hate to be the a-hole here, but this thing was built to protect the large cities in LA. You chose to live in a federal floodway.
It will be opened, and it should be opened.
I can't believe anyone would actually second guess this.
I am very sorry for what will happen to you, but you can't have BR and NOLA flooded out. It would cripple the state and the U.S. as a whole for a while given the port/refinery infrastructure.
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