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re: For those who support a 12+ team CFB playoff…

Posted on 6/10/21 at 2:52 pm to
Posted by AwesomeSauce
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Posted on 6/10/21 at 2:52 pm to
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lsuguy84

You know what I meant,
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 6/10/21 at 3:30 pm to
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A 4 team playoff is killing parity in major college football.


Nick Saban and Dabo Swinney did that, not the playoff. And CFB already has the least parity of any American sport by its nature.

Goddamn some of you are stupid
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 6/10/21 at 4:38 pm to
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Nick Saban and Dabo Swinney did that, not the playoff. And CFB already has the least parity of any American sport by its nature.

There were 11 different BCS Champions in the 15 years of the BCS. A total of 15 different teams played in the title game in 15 years.

Conversely, we've had 2 teams win 5 of 7 titles in the CFP Era, with 5 teams taking up the 14 spots in the NCG. You don't have to do the math to see that Parity has decreased with the Playoff.

Yeah, it might have the least Parity of any sport (when you have 130 teams, parity is going to be lower), but it's even worse with this ridiculous playoff. And you and everyone else opposed to an expansion have been conditioned to think that this is what college football should be. That this is entertaining.

Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 6/10/21 at 4:49 pm to
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There were 11 different BCS Champions in the 15 years of the BCS. A total of 15 different teams played in the title game in 15 years.

Conversely, we've had 2 teams win 5 of 7 titles in the CFP Era, with 5 teams taking up the 14 spots in the NCG. You don't have to do the math to see that Parity has decreased with the Playoff.


...yeah, because of Dabo and (mostly) Saban

Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12715 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 5:28 pm to
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yeah, because of Dabo and (mostly) Saban

You act like these guys are gods. They've both lost games they shouldn't have, and have both lost in the playoffs (multiple times, and not just to each other).

I'm going to change this up alittle bit. Since the Top 4 are the only ones deserving of a postseason, why don't we just get rid of all of the other bowl games? No one cares about them anyway, and since more meaningful football is so opposed, why do we need any more games than the semifinals and final anyway?
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 6/10/21 at 5:55 pm to
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10 conference champions and 2 at large. The entire regular season would have huge meaning.
There is no reason to schedule tough ooc foes in your system.

Win your conference, play WKU, Hoboken State, Grambling, and Citadel. . .preferably one or 2 towards the end of the season, so you can rest your starters for the only thing that matters

Definitely an improvement in regular season quality
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12715 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 6:13 pm to
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There is no reason to schedule tough ooc foes in your system.

Win your conference, play WKU, Hoboken State, Grambling, and Citadel. . .preferably one or 2 towards the end of the season, so you can rest your starters for the only thing that matters

Definitely an improvement in regular season quality

Oh yeah, because Ohio State and Clemson schedule such TOUGH OOC schedules.

2019 Clemson, Ohio State, LSU, and Oklahoma combined to play TAMU, Charlotte, Wofford, South Carolina, FAU, Cincinnati, Miami (OH), Georgia Southern, Texas, Northwestern State, Utah State, Houston, South Dakota, and UCLA.

What a slugfest the semifinalists had to fight through that year.
Posted by statman34
Member since Feb 2011
2955 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 6:19 pm to
The only school that I could see being mad is Alabama. They are the only team that is guaranteed to get in with zero OR one loss.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/10/21 at 6:54 pm to
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I'm not sure jumping from 4 to 12 is a good idea, but if you do it now then there shouldn't be a need to ask for expansion for a long time.


L
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This was the sales pitch for 4 and it's already TRIPLED.

It will be 16 in no time. Every argument for this abortion is an argument for 16, 18, 20, 24, etc
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
35632 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 6:57 pm to
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give every FBS team a seat at the table.
They already do. It's called the regular season schedule.

That used to mean something.
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
35632 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 6:59 pm to
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This was the sales pitch for 4 and it's already TRIPLED.

It will be 16 in no time. Every argument for this abortion is an argument for 16, 18, 20, 24, etc
You'd have to live in a cave not to see this. Just like you had to be brain-dead not to see that the BCS was nothing more than the precursor to what we're seeing now.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65105 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 7:05 pm to
Here is what the field would have looked like had the BCS continued beyond 2013...

2015 BCS National Championship Game
#1 Alabama
#2 Florida State

2016 BCS National Championship Game
#1 Clemson
#2 Alabama

2017 BCS National Championship Game
#1 Alabama
#2 Clemson

2018 BCS National Championship Game
#1 Clemson
#2 Georgia

2019 BCS National Championship Game
#1 Alabama
#2 Clemson

2020 BCS National Championship Game
#1 LSU
#2 Clemson

2021 BCS National Championship Game
#1 Alabama
#2 Clemson

As you can see...the advent of the playoff had very little to do with the collapse in parity. That was going to happen whether we switched to a playoff or remained with the BCS. If anything...the Playoff Era has helped somewhat with parity as it prevented the product from becoming even staler than it already has become.

The reason why college football lacks parity right now is Nick Saban. He is the reason we were forced into the Playoff Era due to the rematch he was allowed against LSU in 2011-12. And he's now the reason the playoffs are expanding because people see a problem with the "lack of parity." Here's the honest truth: so long as Saban remains in college football, you will continue to have this problem.
This post was edited on 6/10/21 at 7:14 pm
Posted by DaTruth7
Member since Apr 2020
3811 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 7:22 pm to
These morons like to ruin everything. Looks like college football is next. You people for this are morons.
Posted by pelicansfan123
Member since Jan 2015
1991 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 7:33 pm to
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So you want to watch Clemson, OSU and Alabama win MORE playoff blowouts?

Adding more teams and rounds won’t magically keep the best teams from slaughtering all but each other.


It might not, but at the same time, it might create more meaningful, fun postseason games. Would anyone really be upset if LSU vs Oregon or Michigan vs Georgia is a playoff game?

Who cares if Alabama is waiting in the next round? People didn't act like Blazers vs Pelicans didn't matter a few years ago just because the Warriors were likely waiting in the next round.
This post was edited on 6/10/21 at 7:36 pm
Posted by hnds2th
Valley of the Sun
Member since May 2019
3035 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 8:56 pm to
Can’t wait to see those packed stadiums in SoCal, Palo Alto, Berkeley, Tempe, in September, because their team has a shot at the playoff.
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