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LA-TX Culinary Cross-Pollination?

Posted on 2/28/18 at 11:34 pm
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
16415 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 11:34 pm
The influence of LA on TX seafood is very pervasive. Houston is a huge city and my opinion is formed almost entirely from the Energy Corridor-Katy area, but seemingly every seafood restaurant (except Asian ones - and there's lots of those) is heavily influenced by LA's seafood tradition, e.g., google "Katy, TX seafood restaurants" and see for yourselves. And this is before the crawfish explosion.

OTOH (and IMO), the most salient TX food contribution, Hill Country BBQ, seems to be completely absent from LA.

Most food trends from outside LA I could care less about. Few are worth mentioning. But TX BBQ is - it's a fantastic culture. And it's from a neighboring state.

So why do you think there are no TX BBQ joints in LA?
Posted by offshoreangler
713, Texas
Member since Jun 2008
22314 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 11:59 pm to
If you think the biggest food contribution from Texas is Hill Country BBQ you’re living under a rock.

It’s Tex-Mex.

Texas BBQ happens to be en vogue currently because it’s objectively one of the best styles of BBQ around popularized by Aaron Franklin.

Also...the most iconic seafood dish in this city isn’t influenced by our neighbors to the east, it’s a wonderful cocktail with influence from our friends on our southern border.
This post was edited on 3/1/18 at 12:06 am
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
79130 posts
Posted on 3/1/18 at 12:04 am to
LA doesn't deserve good bbq, basically
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
16550 posts
Posted on 3/1/18 at 8:58 am to
quote:

no TX BBQ joints in LA


Because Memphis or southern style bbq arrived here first. LA is more pork centric. Even Texas isn't entirely comprised of "Hill Country BBQ".
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58666 posts
Posted on 3/1/18 at 9:03 am to
quote:

Most food trends from outside LA I could care less about


Why have such a parochial attitude?
Posted by ZoneLiftGMC
Member since Oct 2010
869 posts
Posted on 3/1/18 at 10:07 am to
Also, if you think Houston is "formed" from the Energy Cooridor area, you haven't spent much time in Houston.

Sure a lot of the larger companies that call Houston home, headquarter in that area...but from a culinary and cultural standpoint, that whole area is VERY vanilla.
This post was edited on 3/1/18 at 10:08 am
Posted by Jackalope
Paris. (Austin Native)
Member since Apr 2009
2252 posts
Posted on 3/1/18 at 10:07 am to
But the Campechana seafood cocktail is at (anecdotally) maybe a dozen or so restaurants. Where as the Louisiana style seafood (including crawfish) is everywhere.
Posted by convertedtiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
2786 posts
Posted on 3/1/18 at 10:33 am to
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It’s Tex-Mex.


I 10000000% agree with you here. Though I miss my East Texas style BBQ over here, I miss the amazing Tex-Mex that is so hard to find in LA. 90% of the Mexican joints in the BR area do the same tired "mexican" food.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
16415 posts
Posted on 3/1/18 at 11:36 am to
quote:

Also, if you think Houston is "formed" from the Energy Corridor area


I didn't say that. It was stating my experience is limited, i.e., formed by a specific area of Houston.

But characterizing the area as "VERY vanilla" betrays as ignorance of the area.

The point is that in Houston, LA culinary influences are ubiquitous whereas one of TX's major (and IMO worthwhile) traditions is rare in LA. So why so?
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
16415 posts
Posted on 3/1/18 at 11:38 am to
quote:

Because Memphis or southern style bbq arrived here first. LA is more pork centric. Even Texas isn't entirely comprised of "Hill Country BBQ".


There is a TX style joint in Charleston, SC (John Lewis BBQ). Another in Atlanta (Fox Bros). With its soaring popularity, one would think that some would start showing up in LA.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69071 posts
Posted on 3/1/18 at 11:43 am to
correct. Tex-Mex is so huge that most people who LOVE mexican food don't realize they have never had Mexican food.

Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
38680 posts
Posted on 3/1/18 at 12:04 pm to
Huge numbers of people from La migrate/ migrated to Houston and southeast Texas (Beaumont, Port Arthur).....not so much the other way. That's why there are so many cajun places in Houston and southeast Texas.
Posted by convertedtiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
2786 posts
Posted on 3/1/18 at 12:31 pm to
quote:

Huge numbers of people from La migrate/ migrated to Houston and southeast Texas (Beaumont, Port Arthur).


This is true.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 3/1/18 at 12:38 pm to
quote:

So why do you think there are no TX BBQ joints in LA?




One way immigration. Pretty simple, people from LA have brought their food to Texas, but people don't leave Texas to come to Louisiana so their specialties haven't made it over like the other way around. Essentially, the seafood in Texas is "authentic" whereas the Texas style food is imitaton, to put it very simply.
This post was edited on 3/1/18 at 12:41 pm
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37081 posts
Posted on 3/1/18 at 8:26 pm to
I think each observation you are making has a different reason.

Why is there so much cajun/LA influence in Houston? Because so many people have moved from LA to Houston... so that influences the food choices. Most of the LA food in Houston, though, is absolute crap. But all of the transplants there are so desperate for a taste of home that they will go for it.

I believe the reason TX BBQ hasn't caught on in LA, is purely and simply a product of price. In Houston... people will pay $10/lb for shitty crawfish and the like. Here in LA, especially NOLA... an average-at-best plate of brisket and 2 sides will put you back a min of $15. People in LA don't have as much disposable income and it's not worth it. The few places here that have figured out how do do BBQ really well are even more expensive and often run out of food by the end of lunch.

What is surprising to me, however, is how we don't really have many tex-mex options here. Or pure Mexican food. I've told people that places like Pappasito's and Chuy's - which to me are average at best in the Houston competitive market - would absolutely crush it here in NOLA.

Unfortunetly I think any further entry into LA in either tex-mex/mexican or bbq will have to be chain related. Carrabas and Saltgrass seem to be doing well.

Chuy's has made it as far as Lafayette, and the Pappas Family is learning how to work out of state with the expansion of Pappadeaux. Rudy's is expanding in the BBQ market... maybe they could give it a go here.
Posted by choupic
Somewhere on da bayou
Member since Nov 2009
2022 posts
Posted on 3/1/18 at 8:32 pm to
Big Mikes in Thibodaux/Houma is fantastic. Better than the many BBQ places I've ate in Texas.
Posted by tigercross
Member since Feb 2008
4918 posts
Posted on 3/1/18 at 8:48 pm to
quote:

So why do you think there are no TX BBQ joints in LA?


One reason may be that beef has never really been part of the Louisiana (especially Cajun) culinary canon. It’s chicken, pork, and seafood.
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