re: This is what downtown San Francisco looks like right now

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I live in Chicago and we've seen some of the same things that are happening in SF

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I'd live in Chicago long before I lived in SF.

I have a friend who works for Salesforce and she is counting the days until she is out of SF. Spent all of her adult life there. I think she said her car has been broken into a half dozen times this year.

I will never visit there. It has to be the most overrated city on earth.

So places just boarded up?

I was thinking much worse.

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So do I, he's going to be working in their new 60 story building here soon. She should transfer.

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Beautiful building. I'm only a few blocks away on Wacker.

Don't people move from SF to LA? Like Nashville here? I've never been but I've seen as liberal run city a toxic wasteland.

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homelessness has definitely increased but its not all that shocking to me given the economic downturn associated with the pandemic.

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Stopped reading here. You’re either willfully ignorant or fricking retarded

What’s that old saying??

Oh yay.

“Elections have consequences.”

Stop bitching when that’s what the residents wanted.

It will never change until all the sick individuals who live there stop voting for liberals. They keep doing it election after election and sit and wonder why things never get better.

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This is literally happening under a Capitalist system. It's primarily because of extreme wealth inequality.


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The desperate attempts to contextualize what's happening with your progressive ideology, and the belief that more progressiveness will solve it, is exactly why this is going to get way worse for you all. You get what you vote for I guess.

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blaming people looting on capitalism or wealth inequality is a microcosm of Cloward Piven strategy.

we did this really terrible thing repeatedly to try and strain/break the system, so try our system.

it's always a matter of the left putting their foot on the back of the scale and saying "see, I told you so."

-Healthcare wasn't that terrible IMO till Obamacare
-Student Loans/cost of college weren't that crazy till the government took over student loans
-Riots last summer were in areas where the left dominated, and refused Federal support. Then it's Trump's fault that he didn't put it down, when everybody knows he'd be called Hitler if he raised a finger.

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I guess you don't realize that 99% of homeless are homeless because of their dependency on drugs, do you? And almost 0% of homelessness has to do with someone losing their job due to economic downturn, right? Why don't you do some research since you are a San Fran resident, and listen to Michael Shellenberger and you might understand some of the root cause of homelessness. (He was also on Rogan's podcast if you dont want to read).

Hint: Poor choices, and no accountability/punishment for those choices.

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Michael Shellenberger has been pretty great on this as of late.

LINK

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Progressives defend their approach as compassionate. Not everybody who is homeless is an addict, they say. Many are just down on their luck. Others turn to drugs after living on the street. What they need is our help. We should not ask people living in homeless encampments to go somewhere else. Homeless shelters are often more dangerous than living on the street. We should provide the people living in tents with money, food, clean needles, and whatever else they need to stay alive and comfortable. And we should provide everyone with their own apartment unit if that’s what they want.

But this “harm reduction” approach is obviously failing. Cities already do a good job taking care of temporarily homeless people not addicted to drugs. Drug dealers stab and sometimes murder addicts who don’t pay. Women forced into prostitution to support their addictions are raped. Addicts are dying from overdose and poisoning. The addicts living in the open drug scenes commit many crimes including open drug use, sleeping on sidewalks, and defecating in public. Many steal to maintain their habits. The hands-off approach has meant that addicts do not spend any amount of time in jail or hospital where they can be off of drugs, and seek recovery.


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One of the claims made by defenders of the open drug scenes is that people who live in them are mostly locals who were priced out of their homes and apartments and decided to pitch a tent on the street. In San Fransicko, I cite a significant body of evidence to show that this is false, and that many people come to San Francisco from around the U.S. for the city’s unusually high cash welfare benefits, free housing, and tolerance of open drug scenes.

The insider agreed. “People come here because they think they can. It’s bullshite that ‘Only 30 percent [of homeless] are from out of town.’ At least 20,000 homeless people come through town every year. Talk to the people on the street. There’s no way 70 percent of the homeless are from here. I would guess it’s fewer than 50 percent. Ask them the name of their high school and they guess, ‘Washington? The one around the corner?’ But you can’t even talk about that without being called a fascist.”

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