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re: How Powerful was Carlos Marcello?

Posted on 11/21/21 at 8:58 am to
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 11/21/21 at 8:58 am to
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How Powerful was Carlos Marcello?


Legend has it he could squeeze blood out of a tomato.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 11/21/21 at 9:01 am to
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Legend has it he could squeeze blood out of a tomato.



that's easy, what about a turnip?
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 11/21/21 at 9:03 am to
Marcello got his start by being part of Sam Carollo's crew of " tomato salesmen". Marcello was actually an outsider to the New Orleans outfit. He was an immigrant. He was actually born in Tunisia ( N. Africa) when it was a French colony. The French were inducing poor people throughout Southern Europe with opportunities in coastal znorth Africa and the chance to become French citizens starting in the 1890's. Something happened and his family left. Made their way to Palermo and hopped on a boat for America. New Orleans was a prime destination for Sicilian immigrants. It was sold as a comparable climate for Sicilians, etc.

He rose through the ranks not through violence but by being smarter than every one else. He was no choir boy and he could make you disappear. He ran his operation smartly and he had the benefit of having the only outfit in the market. He and Trafficante controlled access to Cuba due to location. Losing Havana was a big deal and the screw up by Kennedy and the Bay of Pigs was a big problem for the mob and Kennedy because of the deal he made with them for the 1960 election. If it is not for the mob helping out Joe Kennedy, JFK does not get the nomination and he does not get help on election night in Chicago via the cemetery vote.
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
12611 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 9:06 am to
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that's easy, what about a turnip?


Mess with his tomatoes and one could turnip dead.
Posted by BorrisMart
La
Member since Jul 2020
8838 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 9:32 am to
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Only know what I have read. Powerful, but only in the south/nola. Held almost absolute control over the areas.


This is not true. He was the only boss to say he wasn't going to Commission meetings that he would send an answer or emissary. He ran the entire gulf coast (the FBI claims he was making 500 + million a year in bookmaking in Texas alone) and had early interests in Miami and Vegas with Lanksy and NYC and Chicago guys, not to mention worked with Hoffa and the Teamsters using trucks out of Mexico. There are Genovese wiretaps of someone wanting to go to Nola on vacation and he's told there would have to be a sit-down with the boss and Carlos just for him to take his wife to La and it was not worth it. Look up the picture from LaStella in NYC, he was arrested with Carlo Gambino and a bunch of other NYC guys, he was well respected in the NE.

ETA: as said a few posts above, he was one of the original guys in Cuba which was huge for the mob in the "golden years."
This post was edited on 11/21/21 at 9:36 am
Posted by Hetfield
Dallas
Member since Jun 2013
7161 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 9:51 am to
His big deal was the illegal casino he ran in Jefferson, LA just across the parish line from Orleans
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This is Southport Hall. Now a live music venue.
Posted by mikehansen11
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 11/21/21 at 10:46 am to
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 10:52 am to
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His big deal was the illegal casino he ran in Jefferson, LA just across the parish line from Orleans
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This is Southport Hall. Now a live music venue


Fun tidbit for me. My great grandfather owned it just before Marcello. History of the place is pretty cool
Posted by jmcwhrter
Member since Nov 2012
6607 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 11:00 am to
Your great grandpa get busted out?
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76719 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 11:11 am to
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NOLA's elites were so wrapped up in their krewes, clubs and debutante societies that they didn't notice the ground shifting under their feet.


The world had moved on.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 11:13 am to
Nah. He and my family were cool with the family. My ggf worked for Bugsy Siegel for awhile and was respected in the nola underground gambling world. Ownership of the club transferred like normal.

Only real thing negative I know of is that my grandmother kicked Carlos out of my grandfather's funeral. She didn't necessarily enjoy the criminal side of my family I guess lol
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
51586 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 11:14 am to
Sounds like the Mississippi Delta
Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
3494 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 11:26 am to
True story

My great-uncle and a couple of his friends protected Marcello (and various other so-called mafia figures) when they where incarcerated… this relationship between the two entities still exist to this day kind of…
Posted by Tbonepatron
Member since Aug 2013
8447 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 11:27 am to
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
19446 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 11:38 am to
Joey Marcello had a daughter who enrolled in Nicholls State, arriving in a big, black Mercedes. A frat brother started hitting on her, they hit it off & dated for about 2 weeks. One morning a bigger Black Mercedes pulled up to the frat house, 2 huge goon-types got out, walked through the door & went straight to my buddy's room. Took him outside by each grabbing an underarm, put him in the back seat. Talked mabe 5 minutes. Buddy jumped out the car, they drove off. Buddy was white as a ghost. Shaking like a leaf, he said they told him to never talk to the niece again. He had almost pissed his pants. Uncle Carlos' power was far reaching into even the smallest details.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
26865 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 11:40 am to
Joey was my dads best friend growing up.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
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51586 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 11:42 am to
Yup. You think Partin testified against Hoffa without his permission?
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 11/21/21 at 11:45 am to
I forget, how did Sammy Demarco fit into this story?
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22451 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 11:49 am to
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NOLA was one of the most powerful and influential cities in America through the 30s
I'd venture to say the "NOLA Thug Mafia" is still alive and well. They just learned to keep their mouths shut. Most of them have moved to the Northshore.
Posted by mstiger1
Member since Jan 2020
26 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 12:28 pm to
Th origin of the mafia is New Orleans, and I did time with Carlos in Ft. Worth co-ed prison in the late 80's and was told to help Carlos LEARN to read, which he already knew how to do. Carlos was tiny and his job was to fill up salt and pepper shakers. He also had a Walkie (girlfriend) while there.
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