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Implications of the Rittenhouse verdict

Posted on 11/16/21 at 9:34 am
Posted by ducktale
Member since Sep 2021
1531 posts
Posted on 11/16/21 at 9:34 am
Regardless of how you feel about the case, one aspect of the defense - as corroborated by the guy shot - is that Kyle did not shoot until he had a gun pointed at him. If the jury finds Kyle guilty, that is a potentially major precedent moving forward.

So, easy question first: if you are not breaking any laws, are you allowed to shoot to defend yourself if someone merely points a gun at you?

Harder question: if you answered yes, should that also apply if the person pointing a gun at you is a cop?

I say yes to both. It blows my mind that we have reached a point where we are OK with police going around pointing guns at ordinary citizens doing nothing. You want the police to learn de-escalation? Make it where they need to be more careful who they point their guns at.
Posted by cubsfan5150
NWA
Member since Nov 2007
17926 posts
Posted on 11/16/21 at 9:35 am to
First down vote
Posted by beebefootballfan
Member since Mar 2011
20436 posts
Posted on 11/16/21 at 9:35 am to
9 times out of 10, if the cop is pointing a gun at you, your suspected of breaking the law.

So this is a stupid question.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64163 posts
Posted on 11/16/21 at 9:35 am to
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If the jury finds Kyle guilty, that is a potentially major precedent moving forward.


It's exactly what the left wants to promote their "gun control" utopian vision. (In truth, they want all guns confiscated and banned.)
This post was edited on 11/16/21 at 9:36 am
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
38183 posts
Posted on 11/16/21 at 9:35 am to
This case, similar to the Chauvin trial, shows that liberals are the true tyrants who will threaten and riot their way into ruining the lives of people they don’t like. This case should’ve never been tried.
Posted by MMauler
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Member since Jun 2013
23913 posts
Posted on 11/16/21 at 9:36 am to
quote:

are you allowed to shoot to defend yourself if someone merely points a gun at you?



Uhhhhmmmm...this was more than someone "merely point[ing] a gun" at someone. This was a VIOLENT MOB chasing this kid down because he wasn't down for the BLM/Antifa cause.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
73828 posts
Posted on 11/16/21 at 9:37 am to

Gregory McKelvey
@GregoryMcKelvey
Employers, consider giving your Black employees a day or two off after the Rittenhouse verdict. Regardless of the outcome, it’s going to be hard for Black people to work and it isn’t fair to expect them to.
Posted by ElRoos
Member since Nov 2017
7843 posts
Posted on 11/16/21 at 9:37 am to
Your questions come across as very black and white but that's not at all how situations normally pan out.
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
9735 posts
Posted on 11/16/21 at 9:37 am to
quote:

Harder question: if you answered yes, should that also apply if the person pointing a gun at you is a cop?


Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179668 posts
Posted on 11/16/21 at 9:40 am to
quote:

So, easy question first: if you are not breaking any laws, are you allowed to shoot to defend yourself if someone merely points a gun at you?

Harder question: if you answered yes, should that also apply if the person pointing a gun at you is a cop?




It's scary that people like you get to vote
Posted by BeerMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2012
8795 posts
Posted on 11/16/21 at 9:40 am to
Cops can’t just point guns at citizens for the hell of it baw. Jesus. You watching too much news.
Posted by dfaulk
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2018
14 posts
Posted on 11/16/21 at 9:40 am to
quote:

Harder question: if you answered yes, should that also apply if the person pointing a gun at you is a cop?

I say yes to both


This may be the most ridiculous attempts at justification for shooting cops I have ever heard. What a wild thing to even say. The number one thing you should do when facing the barrel of a gun being held by the police is COMPLY WITH THEIR DIRECT ORDERS, not open fire on them.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35778 posts
Posted on 11/16/21 at 9:41 am to
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hat is a potentially major precedent moving forward.

That isn't how criminal cases work.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 11/16/21 at 9:41 am to
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ducktale


quote:

Number of Posts: 688
Registered on: 9/28/2021


frick off, Fed!
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
73260 posts
Posted on 11/16/21 at 9:42 am to
quote:

So, easy question first: if you are not breaking any laws, are you allowed to shoot to defend yourself if someone merely points a gun at you?


that’s some convenient wording there baw.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58309 posts
Posted on 11/16/21 at 9:43 am to
quote:

are you allowed to shoot to defend yourself if someone merely points a gun at you?
frick yea you are.

One of the first rules of a fire arm is you only point it where you want to shoot it.
This post was edited on 11/16/21 at 9:44 am
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 11/16/21 at 9:43 am to
quote:

So, easy question first: if you are not breaking any laws, are you allowed to shoot to defend yourself if someone merely points a gun at you?



You can tell you've never had a gun pointed at you. That barrel man, it looks like the size of a manhole.
Posted by Hogwarts
Arkansas, USA
Member since Sep 2015
18303 posts
Posted on 11/16/21 at 9:43 am to
Why is this being spun into a race narrative? All the people involved were white. I has the confused.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 11/16/21 at 9:44 am to
quote:

Why is this being spun into a race narrative? All the people involved were white. I has the confused.



It's the last ditch attempt to convince themselves Kyle did something murder level wrong. Being racist in their minds is almost as bad as being a murderer.
Posted by msutiger
Houston
Member since Jul 2008
71457 posts
Posted on 11/16/21 at 9:45 am to
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This post was edited on 4/5/23 at 5:14 am
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