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re: CDC admits in FOIA that unvaccinated recovered COVID Patients Don’t Spread COVID

Posted on 11/11/21 at 8:59 pm to
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
109893 posts
Posted on 11/11/21 at 8:59 pm to
God, to be a defense attorney or prosecutor right now. Their phones must be going off the line where they’re calling their friends wives and paying them $100 bucks an hour even allowing them to bring their kids to work just to answer the phones. This has to be going through all their heads reading that letter:

This post was edited on 11/11/21 at 9:02 pm
Posted by BigoBoys
Arizona
Member since Aug 2019
594 posts
Posted on 11/11/21 at 8:59 pm to
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Those PCR tests. Guy had the flu once if not twice

They had it a year apart. The people they got it from tested positive.
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
16498 posts
Posted on 11/11/21 at 9:03 pm to
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Well, technically it says they don't have the data


They have the data. If they could show reinfection it would be headlines.
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
16498 posts
Posted on 11/11/21 at 9:05 pm to
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they have no data on it because they don't track it.


Let me fix it. They have no data because it doesn’t jive with their hoax. This is easy data to get and if it fit the narrative it would be on the loud speaker.

A time existed I would give the CDC the benefit that time is long gone.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111798 posts
Posted on 11/11/21 at 9:08 pm to
The data is all there. They don’t want it.
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
16498 posts
Posted on 11/11/21 at 9:10 pm to
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The data is all there. They don’t want it.


Darn skippy. CDC cannot be saved.
Posted by Tigers2010a
Member since Jul 2021
3627 posts
Posted on 11/11/21 at 9:11 pm to
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Neither of them have ever been tested nor have went to see a doctor, so technically their cases are not on the books.


How do they know they had covid if they weren't tested? Could have been something else like flu.
Posted by Jack Daniel
In the bottle
Member since Feb 2013
25695 posts
Posted on 11/11/21 at 9:23 pm to
So people are getting fired for absolutely no reason?
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57517 posts
Posted on 11/11/21 at 9:28 pm to
I continue to believe the CDC push to vaccinate those that have "already had" COVID is an admission that there are tons of false positives. With the astronomical level of asymptomatic, but DX'ed cases... it all fits their actions (though not their rhetoric).
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57517 posts
Posted on 11/11/21 at 9:29 pm to
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there’s no data to say how often that happens. At least not from the CDC.
If only we had a central government entity to collect data on diseases... if only... I guess we could dream.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111798 posts
Posted on 11/11/21 at 9:29 pm to
I agree with this.

If we really had an effective vaccine with 60% of the adult pop vaxxed and another 10% with a recovered infection, we’d be largely over this.
Posted by LSUfor8
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2018
326 posts
Posted on 11/11/21 at 10:11 pm to
You really don’t know if a person had it twice because the threshold for the pcr testing has changed from the beginning of the testing in March-April 2020 until End of January 2021.

At the beginning of the pandemic they were using a threshold of 40-45 amplifications. Remember, the more amplifications you do, the more likely the test will pick up back ground DNA fragments from other viruses or previous infection. In other words, this would yield more false positives.

The inventor of the pcr, Dr Kary Mullis, who shared the Nobel prize in Chemistry in 1993 said that
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PCR tests are unable to distinguish between “the whole virus and viral fragments,” meaning that a so-called positive test, as mentioned in the CD paper, cannot determine if one is infected with the virus, but “merely indicates the presence of viral RNA molecules.”
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In January 2021 on the day Biden “saluted the marines”, the WHO changed the amplification threshold to 37-40. However, Mullis and 22 other scientists who reviewed Mullis’ paper said
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the article suggested anything under 30 to 35 cycles to indicate a positive.
Mullis said himself that in reality, anything over a threshold of 28 amplifications should be considered a false positive.

The reality is that we have no idea how many people truly have or had Covid using this flawed pcr test. Consequently, it’s impossible to know who is truly reinfected based solely on a positive pcr. Obviously, if a patient has symptoms and a positive pcr, this is more likely to be a sign of disease. It’s impossible to know how long that person will shed viral fragments. Hence, an asymptomatic, previously infected person with a positive pcr in the 37-40 is likely to be a false positive.

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Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21925 posts
Posted on 11/11/21 at 10:14 pm to
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They’re basically saying they don’t have any data to support any claim that people who have had Covid once will or won’t get it again or spread it.


You know what I do when I don't have any data? I keep my trap shut and don't give out recommendations.
Posted by Gings5
HTX
Member since Jul 2016
8363 posts
Posted on 11/11/21 at 11:55 pm to
Boom
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41862 posts
Posted on 11/12/21 at 12:27 am to
If those vaccinated can get COVID anyway and spread it, it's likely those recovered from COVID can get it again and spread it. The issue is how easily does someone who has recovered get it again, and how easily can they spread it compared to unvaccinated and vaccinated.

It's a travesty that those who have recovered from COVID and otherwise unvaccinated are treated exactly the same as those who have not had COVID and are unvaccinated. Those numbers should absolutely be tracked.
Posted by interdesting
Member since Dec 2020
192 posts
Posted on 11/12/21 at 2:31 am to
Correct. And, the vaccine push is to launder people finding out whether they’ve actually had it or not (one of tens of millions of false positives).

If people began to hear/find out that the numbers were grossly inflated, and not many, if at all got the fluhan virus, then the political assassination of this county’s small business and middle class is laid bare. The panic, lying and draconian measures are unpopular to almost everyone. If found out to be utter lies for political power grab, holy shite, dc And every politician will need divine intervention to avoid being drawn and quartered.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32503 posts
Posted on 11/12/21 at 5:41 am to
Those sons a bitches are criminal. Even under Trump I said the whole damn bunch needed to be fired and rebuilt. Thirty year bureaucrats become useless after 10 or so. Everyone of them should be in jail.
Posted by 504LikeitwasB4
Member since Oct 2021
429 posts
Posted on 11/12/21 at 5:54 am to
We have all the collective data required. It indicates that you need another insertion. It also has been found that you will need regular penetrations and that big pharma and scienze is the only path to overcoming this plague. We are from the government and we are here to help. Please everyone take your medicine so we can move on to fixing global warming and development of rainbow hair dye free of petroleum distillates.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
31550 posts
Posted on 11/12/21 at 6:04 am to
We only had one real surge. The sick and most vulnerable got it first. We locked down for a while then partially opened back up (lots of people said frick it) and the surge continued.

Posted by Vandyrone
Nashville, TN
Member since Dec 2012
6982 posts
Posted on 11/12/21 at 6:10 am to
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Correct. And, the vaccine push is to launder people finding out whether they’ve actually had it or not (one of tens of millions of false positives).

If people began to hear/find out that the numbers were grossly inflated, and not many, if at all got the fluhan virus, then the political assassination of this county’s small business and middle class is laid bare. The panic, lying and draconian measures are unpopular to almost everyone. If found out to be utter lies for political power grab, holy shite, dc And every politician will need divine intervention to avoid being drawn and quartered.

Exactly right. The flimsy PCR test results are the smoking gun that they’re desperate to cover up.
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