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re: 83% of Covid-19 deaths were among the Fully Vaccinated past month in UK

Posted on 10/25/21 at 12:21 pm to
Posted by AmericanPsycho99
Member since Sep 2021
121 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 12:21 pm to
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frick you’re stupid.



Says the guy who's not really made an argument and his own link showed that breakthrough cases were a much lower percentage of the total number of cases than the vaccinated population as a percentage of the total population.

Says the guy who tried to argue mortality rates among breakthrough cases were similar to those among the unvaccinated while ignoring that breakthrough cases were rare AND those who were vaccinated + reinfected would not be a random sample of the population (being much weaker than the vaccinated population as a whole).

You're the stupid one for not understanding that people who had breakthrough cases are not randomly selected - they're disproportionately weaker and older than the median vaccinated/unvaccinated individual.
This post was edited on 10/25/21 at 12:23 pm
Posted by AmericanPsycho99
Member since Sep 2021
121 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 12:25 pm to
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frick, dude. You are literally comparing cases, hospitalizations, and deaths of vaccinated vs. unvaccinated. The fact that large numbers of "vaccinated" people are getting covid, being hospitalized, and dying tells you it doesn't work. Words have meanings.


It's not large though.

In a country of 70 million, the numbers are pretty insignificant.

The vaccine works because it reduces hospitalizations - that's the entire point of the vaccine.

Plenty of vaccines work that way - reducing severe symptoms.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
20054 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 12:27 pm to
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The mandate is because vulnerable people aren't getting vaccinated when they should be. Biden can't exactly force vulnerable people alone to be vaccinated so he has to make it apply to the general population.


If Biden can't frick it up, nobody can. 120 million have natural immunity, but President* Biden and his one-size-fits-all handlers don't know it or are too dumb to care.
Posted by LakeCharles
USA
Member since Oct 2016
5071 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 12:40 pm to
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Plenty of vaccines work that way - reducing severe symptoms.

Plenty - name three (no, the flu vaccine does not count).





Posted by Chet Donnely
Member since Sep 2015
1542 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 12:42 pm to
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Don't get the vaccine, get the vaccine. That's up to you and I'm not going to argue with you.


Are you a fricking dumbass? You literally said you're pro-mandate more than once in this thread. It must be hard trying to keep track of all the stupid shite that you spew on here.
Posted by HughsWorkPhone
Member since Sep 2017
1161 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 12:43 pm to
What % of the UK is vaccinated?
Posted by Chet Donnely
Member since Sep 2015
1542 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 12:44 pm to
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The vaccine works because it reduces hospitalizations - that's the entire point of the vaccine.


Since when?
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164633 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 12:51 pm to
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The vaccine works because it reduces hospitalizations - that's the entire point of the vaccine.

Plenty of vaccines work that way - reducing severe symptoms.

Why do children need it? Overall they don’t get hospitalized by Covid or have severe symptoms.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
49165 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 12:53 pm to
Youre a dumbass
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32516 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 12:54 pm to
Did it say how many were AstraZenaca?
Posted by bamadontcare
Member since Jun 2013
2867 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 12:55 pm to
If the vaccines killed every human who took it except for one, he would be
singing it’s praises on this board.
Posted by AmericanPsycho99
Member since Sep 2021
121 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 2:49 pm to
LINK

Polio vaccine, Rotavirus vaccine, and the Pertussis vaccine.

All examples of non-sterilizing vaccines. Variants of the Typhoid vaccine are also non-sterilizing as well as other diseases.

Happy?
Posted by AmericanPsycho99
Member since Sep 2021
121 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 2:50 pm to
The mandate doesn't mean he has to get it.

He can quit his job for example. I've been fairly consistent - I'm pro-mandate but that's not making the vaccine compulsory.

If he wants to leave his job, he can and I'm not stopping him. It's entirely consistent.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81955 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 2:57 pm to
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You’ve been here a couple days. You don’t know anything.


This is rich. I mean, just admit it doesn't fit your bullshite ignorant narrative. It's all in black and white to see.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69374 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 3:02 pm to
But muh 99% are unvaxxed.

Yeah when the vaccines weren’t available to everyone.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69374 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 3:03 pm to
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Polio vaccine, Rotavirus vaccine, and the Pertussis vaccine.



Have you received all of these?
Posted by AmericanPsycho99
Member since Sep 2021
121 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 3:03 pm to
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Since when?



Since the beginning?

Pfizer researchers made it pretty clear in their report that the aim of vaccination was to reduce hospitalizations and symptoms - they couldn't conclude that it reduced transmissibility although they suspected it did.
Posted by Chet Donnely
Member since Sep 2015
1542 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 3:06 pm to
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Since the beginning?


Tell that to the CDC and the *president.

You literally can't help yourself. You're fricking programmed.
Posted by AmericanPsycho99
Member since Sep 2021
121 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 3:06 pm to
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Have you received all of these?



I've received two of them I think: Pertussis and the Rotavirus vaccine.

But not sure how it's relevant. I was asked to provide 3 examples of vaccines that provide non-sterilizing immunity and I did so pretty convincingly.
Posted by AmericanPsycho99
Member since Sep 2021
121 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 3:11 pm to
Uh, there's plenty of evidence from the beginning that the vaccine was about reducing symptomatic infection, not all infection.

LINK

Here's one research paper from March of 2021 for example (at the beginning of the vaccination period). I'm pretty sure I recall the CDC publishing something similar if I remember correctly. Their site definitely currently states that the vaccines reduce severe infections/hospitalizations.

The President got it wrong on this occasion. I can admit that - it's entirely consistent. The President either misspoke or didn't understand the vaccination properly.

As I've shown you, the evidence was there from the beginning of March.
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