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Cotton Shortage not good for Ag surrounded Public Lands
Posted on 10/4/21 at 7:28 am
Posted on 10/4/21 at 7:28 am
Clothing price increase just announced, due to cotton issues.
I can see it now. Next spring the farmers plant cotton instead of beans or corn. Deer won,t have that rich food all summer. Not good .
I can see it now. Next spring the farmers plant cotton instead of beans or corn. Deer won,t have that rich food all summer. Not good .
Posted on 10/4/21 at 7:43 am to EF Hutton
Are big farms really that agile?
Posted on 10/4/21 at 7:45 am to EF Hutton
I don't know if that will happen, around here, there aren't even any gins anymore. They've all shut down.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 7:49 am to h0bnail
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Are big farms really that agile?
Some are. Some aren’t. Depends on if they stayed in cotton the last 10-15 years. The current markets are not going to make a 100% grain guy move a bunch of acres to cotton.
Also, Auggie is right. A lot of the old cotton infrastructure is gone. The current gins can only handle so much.
This post was edited on 10/4/21 at 7:52 am
Posted on 10/4/21 at 8:14 am to prostyleoffensetime
All of the textile mills are gone too, so if you did get your cotton ginned, it would have to ship halfway around the world to get anything made from it. We've outsourced our asses into a corner.
Edit to add: It's a crying shame too that the gins are gone. They use to be a sort of a center of local communities. During off season, a lot of times, you could stop by the gin office and get in a card game, or horseshoe pitchin or dominoes. You got to know all the farmers, and learned a bunch of new jokes. If they liked you, you got invitations to come to bird hunts and got permission for access to their property.
During ginning season, you could make some extra money working at the gin, and it was kind of fun, because you knew everybody that you were working around. One of the very funniest stories that I have to tell, happened late one night working at the local gin. When I tell it, it brings people to tears.
Edit to add: It's a crying shame too that the gins are gone. They use to be a sort of a center of local communities. During off season, a lot of times, you could stop by the gin office and get in a card game, or horseshoe pitchin or dominoes. You got to know all the farmers, and learned a bunch of new jokes. If they liked you, you got invitations to come to bird hunts and got permission for access to their property.
During ginning season, you could make some extra money working at the gin, and it was kind of fun, because you knew everybody that you were working around. One of the very funniest stories that I have to tell, happened late one night working at the local gin. When I tell it, it brings people to tears.
This post was edited on 10/4/21 at 8:33 am
Posted on 10/4/21 at 8:20 am to EF Hutton
Cotton acreage isn't very elastic. Most ground that's in beans isn't good enough to grow cotton in the first place. Plus, to plant cotton you have to have access to a cotton picker and other specialized equipment. It's hard to just jump in and out of cotton.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 8:23 am to EF Hutton
So, will there only be shortages in cotton and not with beans and corn? Pretty sure there will be high demand for all so I'm not concerned at all.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 8:35 am to EF Hutton
20 years ago it was all cotton from Vidalia up to Monroe. It is now all corn.
Haven't you seen that corn prices are up since the crop failures due frost in Brazil?
Haven't you seen that corn prices are up since the crop failures due frost in Brazil?
Posted on 10/4/21 at 8:46 am to EF Hutton
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Deer won,t have that rich food all summer. Not good .
Deer were around before man cultivated the land.
The area I hunt is surrounded by 95% sugar cane and a little beans. They only started planting beans in the last few years. Haven’t seen a difference.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 8:48 am to EF Hutton
Would it make sense for a farm to plant cotton if they aren’t anywhere near a gin?
Posted on 10/4/21 at 8:56 am to upgrade
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The area I hunt is surrounded by 95% sugar cane
Same here
Also, Tensas has 100s of acres of cotton plated next to it. They grow nice deer.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 8:57 am to No Colors
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Most ground that's in beans isn't good enough to grow cotton in the first place.
Well that’s not really true. A ton of bean ground used to grow cotton.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 9:17 am to EF Hutton
quote:Deer will eat cotton, baw. Don’t worry, the deer will be fine regardless of what’s planted where.
Next spring the farmers plant cotton instead of beans or corn. Deer won,t have that rich food all summer. Not good .
Posted on 10/4/21 at 9:18 am to MobileJosh
quote:So you agree. Lol
Well that’s not really true. A ton of bean ground used to grow cotton.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 9:23 am to EF Hutton
I really do not buy cotton clothing anymore.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 10:24 am to prostyleoffensetime
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The current markets are not going to make a 100% grain guy move a bunch of acres to cotton.
Also because a new picker is 600-750k
Posted on 10/4/21 at 11:37 am to MobileJosh
Well, i wasn't specific enough. We'll just leave it as it is.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 11:41 am to EF Hutton
Deer will hammer young cotton plants.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 11:43 am to EF Hutton
Plenty of cotton ground that will be converted when we see steady dollar plus cotton. Plenty of pickers and gins that would love to see it. You put another 20,000 acres in production in MS/LA/AR, someone will quickly get a another picker and customer harvest Pickers are high, but JD loves to finance and demo.
Only problem is, chemical/seed boys will kill it before it gets going. Market climbs 40%, they jump 150%.
Only problem is, chemical/seed boys will kill it before it gets going. Market climbs 40%, they jump 150%.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 11:45 am to EF Hutton
Also with new baling technology the farther the gin is no big deal. Flatbeds and loaders have replaced the most of the module builders and trucks. Another reduced cost for the farmer and gin operator, makes the picker more valuable.
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