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Cotton Shortage not good for Ag surrounded Public Lands

Posted on 10/4/21 at 7:28 am
Posted by EF Hutton
Member since Jan 2018
2366 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 7:28 am
Clothing price increase just announced, due to cotton issues.

I can see it now. Next spring the farmers plant cotton instead of beans or corn. Deer won,t have that rich food all summer. Not good .
Posted by h0bnail
Member since Sep 2009
7456 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 7:43 am to
Are big farms really that agile?
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
28327 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 7:45 am to
I don't know if that will happen, around here, there aren't even any gins anymore. They've all shut down.
Posted by prostyleoffensetime
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2009
11488 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 7:49 am to
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Are big farms really that agile?


Some are. Some aren’t. Depends on if they stayed in cotton the last 10-15 years. The current markets are not going to make a 100% grain guy move a bunch of acres to cotton.

Also, Auggie is right. A lot of the old cotton infrastructure is gone. The current gins can only handle so much.
This post was edited on 10/4/21 at 7:52 am
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
28327 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 8:14 am to
All of the textile mills are gone too, so if you did get your cotton ginned, it would have to ship halfway around the world to get anything made from it. We've outsourced our asses into a corner.
Edit to add: It's a crying shame too that the gins are gone. They use to be a sort of a center of local communities. During off season, a lot of times, you could stop by the gin office and get in a card game, or horseshoe pitchin or dominoes. You got to know all the farmers, and learned a bunch of new jokes. If they liked you, you got invitations to come to bird hunts and got permission for access to their property.
During ginning season, you could make some extra money working at the gin, and it was kind of fun, because you knew everybody that you were working around. One of the very funniest stories that I have to tell, happened late one night working at the local gin. When I tell it, it brings people to tears.
This post was edited on 10/4/21 at 8:33 am
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
10557 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 8:20 am to
Cotton acreage isn't very elastic. Most ground that's in beans isn't good enough to grow cotton in the first place. Plus, to plant cotton you have to have access to a cotton picker and other specialized equipment. It's hard to just jump in and out of cotton.

Posted by mtb010
San Antonio
Member since Sep 2009
4486 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 8:23 am to
So, will there only be shortages in cotton and not with beans and corn? Pretty sure there will be high demand for all so I'm not concerned at all.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
9727 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 8:35 am to
20 years ago it was all cotton from Vidalia up to Monroe. It is now all corn.

Haven't you seen that corn prices are up since the crop failures due frost in Brazil?
Posted by upgrade
Member since Jul 2011
13245 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 8:46 am to
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Deer won,t have that rich food all summer. Not good .


Deer were around before man cultivated the land.
The area I hunt is surrounded by 95% sugar cane and a little beans. They only started planting beans in the last few years. Haven’t seen a difference.
Posted by Jack Daniel
In the bottle
Member since Feb 2013
25642 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 8:48 am to
Would it make sense for a farm to plant cotton if they aren’t anywhere near a gin?
Posted by SaDaTayMoses
Member since Oct 2005
4324 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 8:56 am to
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The area I hunt is surrounded by 95% sugar cane


Same here

Also, Tensas has 100s of acres of cotton plated next to it. They grow nice deer.
Posted by MobileJosh
On the go
Member since May 2018
1065 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 8:57 am to
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Most ground that's in beans isn't good enough to grow cotton in the first place.



Well that’s not really true. A ton of bean ground used to grow cotton.
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
14095 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 9:17 am to
quote:

Next spring the farmers plant cotton instead of beans or corn. Deer won,t have that rich food all summer. Not good .

Deer will eat cotton, baw. Don’t worry, the deer will be fine regardless of what’s planted where.
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
14095 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 9:18 am to
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Well that’s not really true. A ton of bean ground used to grow cotton.

So you agree. Lol
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81802 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 9:23 am to
I really do not buy cotton clothing anymore.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
37605 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 10:24 am to
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The current markets are not going to make a 100% grain guy move a bunch of acres to cotton.


Also because a new picker is 600-750k
Posted by EF Hutton
Member since Jan 2018
2366 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 11:37 am to
Well, i wasn't specific enough. We'll just leave it as it is.
Posted by LSUballs
RayVegas LA
Member since Feb 2008
37882 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 11:41 am to
Deer will hammer young cotton plants.
Posted by Sparetime
Lookin down at La
Member since Sep 2014
909 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 11:43 am to
Plenty of cotton ground that will be converted when we see steady dollar plus cotton. Plenty of pickers and gins that would love to see it. You put another 20,000 acres in production in MS/LA/AR, someone will quickly get a another picker and customer harvest Pickers are high, but JD loves to finance and demo.

Only problem is, chemical/seed boys will kill it before it gets going. Market climbs 40%, they jump 150%.
Posted by Sparetime
Lookin down at La
Member since Sep 2014
909 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 11:45 am to
Also with new baling technology the farther the gin is no big deal. Flatbeds and loaders have replaced the most of the module builders and trucks. Another reduced cost for the farmer and gin operator, makes the picker more valuable.
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