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re: Cotton Shortage not good for Ag surrounded Public Lands

Posted on 10/4/21 at 11:47 am to
Posted by prostyleoffensetime
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2009
11420 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 11:47 am to
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Also because a new picker is 600-750k


More than that now. We outsource our cotton harvest… Best thing we’ve got going. We can flex acres better than surrounding farms and we get our cotton out 2-3 times faster than we would if we owned a picker. No idea why more farms don’t do it.
Posted by deltafarmer
Member since Dec 2019
492 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 11:53 am to
Cotton prices for 2022 aren't nearly as high as they need to be to attract a lot of acres from corn and soybeans in particular. Cotton and corn require fertilizer. Soybeans are okay without. It isn't just the price we consider. Input costs also are part of the equation.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90543 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 12:13 pm to
I’ve noticed there isn’t much cotton planted this year. Which is odd cause last year there was a good bit
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90543 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 12:15 pm to
Town of Midnight, Ms got its name because the midnight cotton gin there. A farmer won the gin in a poker game at midnight and thus the name came about because of it
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27870 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 12:38 pm to
Somebody could probably write a great book that was nothing but old cotton gin stories.
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
13815 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 1:14 pm to
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Deer will hammer young cotton plants.
and eat the new terminal grown until frost or they find a better deal.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 1:35 pm to
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Only problem is, chemical/seed boys will kill it before it gets going. Market climbs 40%, they jump 150%.


Syngenta and Bayer said quit your whining.
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
30369 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 2:30 pm to
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It's a crying shame too that the gins are gone.
My uncle owned a gin that went broke in the 70's. He blamed it on his lawyer. He used to own, and cotton farm, a lot of the land on both sides of the highway between Bastrop and Mer Rouge.

Back then everyone depended on each other to get by. Because of that, things weren't as cut and dried as they are now. I specifically remember farmers, and other prominent people, who charged their gas a a station where I worked might go 14-16 months without paying their bill. I'm talking when you did a hand written invoices and had their family members sign when they got gas. The owner needed me to run the front while he entered all of those figures into ledgers. Such a different world back then.

When I was a little kid in the 60's, the black guys that worked for my cotton farmer/gin owner uncle were the only black people I talked with. We didn't go to school together until the sixth grade.
Posted by BorrisMart
La
Member since Jul 2020
8811 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 3:01 pm to
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20 years ago it was all cotton from Vidalia up to Monroe. It is now all corn.


It still mostly is from Ferriday to Jonesville and Columbia to Monroe but I get your point. Love driving through those areas before they clear the fields out. I have no idea where they send it though, you can see they bale into giant bales and it gets wrapped up and put on trucks to go somewhere, I'd imagine back in the day that was all tended to locally.
This post was edited on 10/4/21 at 3:02 pm
Posted by LSUballs
RayVegas LA
Member since Feb 2008
37724 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 3:23 pm to
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I have no idea where they send it though,



There's still several gins around there. Frogmore, Concordia and a few more.
Posted by CottonWasKing
4,8,15,16,23,42
Member since Jun 2011
28602 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 5:19 pm to
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Next spring the farmers plant cotton instead of beans or corn



The price of cotton has to come a long way to be competitive with corn and beans right now.
This post was edited on 10/4/21 at 5:20 pm
Posted by prostyleoffensetime
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2009
11420 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 5:35 pm to
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The price of cotton has to come a long way to be competitive with corn and beans right now.


It’s closer than I thought it would be with the current price of fertilizer. Beans look like the easy winner on my most recently updated spreadsheet, but cotton looks a little better than corn thanks to fertilizer… Your gin has a little bit to do with a better looking budget, thanks to the rebate. Every gin is different.

Also, I think if average farmers would cut about 20% of seed and 15% of Nitrogen that their sales rep tells them to do to make a cotton crop, they’d be surprised at the results.
Posted by beebefootballfan
Member since Mar 2011
19014 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 6:31 pm to
So 2 years ago there was a massive surplus, federal warehouses stacked to the ceiling with ginned cotton. So much the price got so low farmers in my neck of the woods parked their pickers.

Prices rebounded a little and It was wall to wall cotton last year around here and now there is a shortage?

We had some shuttered gins reopen last year it was so good. It’s crazy to see guys trucking in bales from north Mississippi to northeast Arkansas.
This post was edited on 10/4/21 at 6:42 pm
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15090 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 6:53 pm to
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I really do not buy cotton clothing anymore.


^^^^^ Wears stretchy skinny jeans
Posted by 007mag
Death Valley, Sec. 408
Member since Dec 2011
3873 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 7:46 pm to

Cotton Seed Feeder
Posted by beebefootballfan
Member since Mar 2011
19014 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 7:54 pm to
Another crazy thing is gins having a hard time finding workers. Talked to a gin owner this week paying 35-40 k for workers and can’t find help. Meanwhile he can’t find module drivers because nobody can pass a drug test.

Government needs to shut off the bs quickly.
This post was edited on 10/4/21 at 7:55 pm
Posted by prostyleoffensetime
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2009
11420 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 9:12 pm to
A lot of module truck drivers in the delta are South Africans. I don’t know what’s worse. Them or the guys that can’t pass drug tests. South Africans are good folks for the most part, but they’re reckless on equipment, hauling arse, and running ragged.
Posted by jimjackandjose
Member since Jun 2011
6496 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 10:42 pm to
Corn staying at 7 per bushel, dont expect to see much rotation.

Cotton just costs so damn much per acre and last I checked my farmer still had his crop from last season in warehouse
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81606 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 7:40 am to
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Wears stretchy skinny jeans
Banana Republic. They are fantastic!
Posted by deltafarmer
Member since Dec 2019
492 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 8:29 am to
Clothing prices are not going up because cotton prices have risen. There may be 1/4 lb. of cotton in a shirt so a 20-30 cent increase in the price of raw cotton doesn't substantially increase the actual cost of clothing. Its the cost of freight, shipping and shipping containers, fuel and almost everything else used in making and delivering clothing driving the price of clothes now. Consumer demand is also higher post covid.
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