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Posted on 10/4/21 at 11:14 am to carhartt
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The fact that they won’t let kids bring backpacks to school, but will let them roll with coolers is 100% typical dumbass Liberal logic.
Do they think kids can’t possibly be carrying a gun in a roll around cooler?
Again I doubt the majority of the trustees are big on liberal logic. I don't think that meant to allow coolers et al, they just didn't expect to be lawyered by students. I would imagine they cut off coolers and stroller with the quickness.
Now avoiding any 2A rights a 13yo might have since Idaho law prevents anyone under 18 from possessing a handgun there is really only one very high efficacy way to prevent guns in schools. Metal detectors/searches. This is high cost and despite the love for children has to be approach with some care. You have to balance the chance of a student being shot in some future school shooting vs the negative impact of turning the school into what many might perceive to be a prison.
Unfortunately, there is no right answer just varying opinions and impossible to predict outcomes of any action. For example, clear backpacks won't prevent little Johnny from just using dad's concealed carry holster. They might stop an impulse but they won't stop a determined kid planning and actual shooting and the determined kid is likely statistically the one you want to stop.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 11:19 am to Bobby OG Johnson
Would make for a good Biden Fark.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 11:22 am to carhartt
quote:The likely next step after this temporary no-backpack stopgap. Tough to ask every kid to buy a new backpack on short notice.
Uh, clear backpacks??
quote:You think all this stuff was specifically allowed, or maybe they just didn't expect the kids to pull off something like this? You should think shite through before making dumbass assumptions.
The fact that they won’t let kids bring backpacks to school, but will let them roll with coolers is 100% typical dumbass Liberal logic.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 11:26 am to Obtuse1
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The county went 85% for Trump.
In what universe is that true cause it sure ain’t this one
ETA: I can’t read this morning
This post was edited on 10/4/21 at 11:39 am
Posted on 10/4/21 at 11:27 am to Korkstand
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You think all this stuff was specifically allowed, or maybe they just didn't expect the kids to pull off something like this? You should think shite through before making dumbass assumptions.
Maybe school decision makers should too
Posted on 10/4/21 at 11:28 am to Korkstand
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You think all this stuff was specifically allowed, or maybe they just didn't expect the kids to pull off something like this? You should think shite through before making dumbass assumptions.
How about they think things through before they implement rules that make no sense? I bet there was zero brain storming or critiquing of any possible loophole in the rule before they unanimously and blindly agreed on it.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 11:29 am to OMLandshark
Rules ! Karen demands more rules. And double mask up, kids!
Posted on 10/4/21 at 11:29 am to carhartt
Don’t question authority. They know and want what’s best for you
Posted on 10/4/21 at 11:30 am to Korkstand
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Just say frick it?
A more useful response than this moronic, knee-jerk reaction by the school. Of course, you have the IQ of a turnip and can't grasp such a simple concept.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 11:36 am to OldSouth
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The adjusted policy still does not let students have backpacks in the halls or the classrooms.
How do they get them to their lockers?
Posted on 10/4/21 at 11:36 am to dawgfan24348
quote:LINKquote:In what universe is that true cause it sure ain’t this one
The county went 85% for Trump.
Jefferson County, ID
Trump 12,099 85.3%
Biden 1,661 11.7%
Other 420 3%
Posted on 10/4/21 at 11:37 am to 3nOut
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Not to poliboard it, but Matt Walsh from the Daily Wire has taken to protesting at School Board meetings and it’s been shocking at how many of them don’t actually have any kids in the district.
Is it? Should that be a requirement? Just playing devil's advocate you are looking at the age requirement you'd be removing a lot of "experience". I'll be 52 when my youngest of 3 graduates HS. I'd bet over 50% of school board members are retired.
As said, no backpacks is an absurd rules there have been many many schools with mesh or clear only bags since at least the 90s.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 11:38 am to Oilfieldbiology
quote:This is obviously not a permanent solution.
Maybe school decision makers should too
Posted on 10/4/21 at 11:38 am to Korkstand
My mistake I thought you said country that makes way more sense
Posted on 10/4/21 at 11:40 am to TDTOM
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Yes. A backpack ban isn't stopping anyone that wants to bring a gun to school.
Now a days they have to do something.
FWIW a lot of the policies are backpacks are allowed into and out of school, just not in the middle of the day.
Which is a terrible policy because 20 years ago even we had kids starting 1-2 periods in and ending 1-2 periods early, so in that instance you'd have at least a handful of kids, including those going to appointments, walking around with a bag at any time.
I'm not sure the answer, but this certainly isn't it.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 11:41 am to Korkstand
Whether it’s permanent or not does not detract from the idiocy of the action. And don’t even pretend for a second that 2020-2021 aren’t filled with idiotic temporary decisions that are still ongoing.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 11:42 am to carhartt
quote:It's as if no one has ever implemented an imperfect temporary policy around here.
How about they think things through before they implement rules that make no sense? I bet there was zero brain storming or critiquing of any possible loophole in the rule before they unanimously and blindly agreed on it.
Posted on 10/4/21 at 11:53 am to TDTOM
quote:So no attempt whatsoever to prevent a third gun incident at the same fricking school?
Yes.
quote:Clearly. What can?
A backpack ban isn't stopping anyone that wants to bring a gun to school.
Since your solution is apparently "frick it", what do you say to a parent whose child may be injured or worse after you did absolutely nothing after two incidents in only a few months? At that point will your solution be "frick you"?
Posted on 10/4/21 at 11:58 am to baldona
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Is it? Should that be a requirement? Just playing devil's advocate you are looking at the age requirement you'd be removing a lot of "experience". I'll be 52 when my youngest of 3 graduates HS. I'd bet over 50% of school board members are retired.
I’m not opposed to people without kids in the school being on the board, but I do think that it’s easier to spend money and make directives that don’t directly affect you.
In my previous K12 admin job, there was a 7 member board and only 2 of them had any kids in the school at that point.
In Texas, once you reach a certain age you can apply for an opt out of any future bond increases. Guess who had had that exemption? 4 of the 5 board members that passed $100mm+ bonds.
Overwhelmingly, the people that are approving a lot of the CRT (I am not using that term in a “anything I don’t agree with is marxist” poliboard sort of way, I’m using in the terms of “if we see any discrepancies in outcomes, than it probably comes from an inequitable way of doing education/discipline amongst races way”) don’t have kids in the system.
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