re: J&J vs Moderna if forced for work?

Bribe someone to say you took it. Do not take this creepy forced injection that programs your mRNA.

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If you are an anti vaccine kinda guy (and I assume you are) you would probably be more comfortable with J&J.

However all the data says Moderna is the most effective with minimal waning either because of time or delta.

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What Data? I rad data reports all the time that change or contradict.

Moderna.

Due to the higher amount of active ingredients, it is holding up better over time as compared to Pfizer.

J&J has more documented side effects. They're all very rare but at this point the mRNA vaccines seem a bit safer.

frick them both hold out as long as you can get and lawyer up.
Look at what happened with general dynamics.

The FDA may issue an EUA when certain criteria are met, which includes that there are no adequate, approved, available alternatives. hmmm, we still have 3 active vaccines with EUAs. Call around and see if you can find the FDA approved COMIRNATY. Pfizer BioNTech and COMIRNATY are legally distinct and have certain differences,

Do your research and inform yourself.

I think they gave Cackle Moderna assuming she actually took it so I’d roll with that.

make them fire you

i did the J&J back in April or May for a few reasons.

my dad was a J&J employee for years.
one shot.
i liked what i knew about it vs the mRNA at the time.


my experience:

Took shot at Noon. Wife took it at 4.

shot actually genuinely hurt. not getting poked but when they injected it. never had that happen before went about my day.

at 10 pm i started getting really bad chills and body aches. took a shower and fell immediately asleep. my wife woke me up at 2 having the same symptoms i did, but i had sweat out whatever happened. next day i didn't feel great but i was over it. she took a bit longer to kick it.

5 months later and we've had numerous exposures and 0 positive tests. i was in a car with a covid positive teen for 3 straight days. we went to pine cove family camp and just about every single family we hung out with tested positive with some serious, but not severe, symptoms but we escaped unscathed and tested negative for the next two weeks. i'm pretty sure we actually were asymptomatic spreaders to be honest. the only reason we tested was because my wife had to go to teacher inservice days and i had to travel for work so we didn't want to spread if we did indeed have it after so many people we were around tested positive.

on the flip side, we know probably 20-30 people that have had breakthrough infections with Moderna or Phizer. None of them serious fortunately.

I had some sort of RSV thing in early August, but 4 at home tests, a lab test, and a Dr. all said it wasn't COVID.

I got J&J in March (wife got it two weeks ago)

Shot did hurt pretty bad and injection site was sore for a week straight.

I had minor chills that night trying to sleep and that was it.

Wife got a bruise (she tensed up like always) but no side effects.

I've been around multiple covid positive people since March and haven't tested positive yet.