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Max is not the problem people.

Posted on 9/12/21 at 11:09 am
Posted by LatinTiger30
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2007
4431 posts
Posted on 9/12/21 at 11:09 am
We still can’t run the ball. Too many WRs drops, we have no offensive identity, the offense lacks consistency, defense still allowing big plays.

CEO better fix it before MSU!
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95925 posts
Posted on 9/12/21 at 11:11 am to
The fact is we can’t run the ball, and that isn’t going to be fixed. We need to accept that and find a potential solution

And Johnson is a Qb that simply doesn’t have the skill set to makeup for a poor running game and be an elite playmaker himself.
Posted by SulphursFinest
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2015
8775 posts
Posted on 9/12/21 at 11:12 am to
A realist will say the entire team is pretty bad
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75268 posts
Posted on 9/12/21 at 11:16 am to
Before MSU?

What about before Central Michigan?
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 9/12/21 at 11:18 am to
quote:

We still can’t run the ball. Too many WRs drops, we have no offensive identity, the offense lacks consistency, defense still allowing big plays.

if you're going to be honest about all of that, you should at least throw in Max's issues. he can't make progressions, holds the ball too long frequently, hangs the ball in the air too long, throws the ball into the dirt, occasionally flings the ball without looking
Posted by mgdtiger
Member since May 2006
2854 posts
Posted on 9/12/21 at 11:19 am to
He is one part of many problems.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
53963 posts
Posted on 9/12/21 at 11:22 am to
There is not ONE problem and arguing about the hierarchy of issues or trying to break it down into this or that is pointless

Posted by Imber
Member since Sep 2017
12998 posts
Posted on 9/12/21 at 11:23 am to
quote:

CEO better fix it before MSU!


The OL can't be fixed. It's quite possibly the worst I've ever seen at LSU. No OL, no offense.
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24515 posts
Posted on 9/12/21 at 11:23 am to
He kind of is though. No one has to worry about a pass being thrown further than 25yds down field. It’s the same shite we had to endure with the last 3-4 years of Drew Brees. We’ve seen this movie and know how it ends.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
49025 posts
Posted on 9/12/21 at 11:24 am to
Is it possible we just missed on all these linemen? I don't u derstand as a group how they can be this mediocre, is it coaching? Conditioning?
Posted by delta saint
Member since Aug 2021
180 posts
Posted on 9/12/21 at 11:25 am to
He is not *the* problem but he is definitely *a* problem.
Posted by BorrisMart
La
Member since Jul 2020
8821 posts
Posted on 9/12/21 at 11:27 am to
Nuss's passes looked better, and he atleast moved his feet after the snap.
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
61331 posts
Posted on 9/12/21 at 11:28 am to
quote:

Max is not the problem people.
He may not be the ONLY problem, but he is definitely A problem
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39665 posts
Posted on 9/12/21 at 11:30 am to
Yes he is. I’m not down on Max, nor am I saying he won’t develop, but he is not polished yet. He is late on reads, and he is throwing when he’s not set. If he gets his feet under him, he is accurate and puts a lot of velocity on his throws. His lack of command is causing him to be behind on his reads.

Those clamoring for the backup are being foolish. He would have even worse problems with a lack of command. There is nothing to do but get through this.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
An Incredibly Distant Star
Member since Dec 2013
15292 posts
Posted on 9/12/21 at 11:31 am to
quote:

Too many WRs drops,


Nuss at least have them a chance to drop them. A couple of them were in very tight coverage, but catchable. I think his mobility and pocket awareness are what we need to help a struggling O line.
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
18308 posts
Posted on 9/12/21 at 11:32 am to
CEO has NO clue how to fix this pile of shite he caused.
Posted by jvilardo
5024 e. Brooks Town BR, La.
Member since Jan 2012
3283 posts
Posted on 9/12/21 at 11:35 am to
Ot begins and ends with coaching and developing players.



*It. Edit
This post was edited on 9/12/21 at 11:36 am
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26705 posts
Posted on 9/12/21 at 11:37 am to
quote:

Max is not the problem people.
Max is definitely the problem when...
quote:

We still can’t run the ball. Too many WRs drops, we have no offensive identity, the offense lacks consistency, defense still allowing big plays
Max "dink and dunk" Johnson will not win us games because he provides no playmaker abilities. If we can't run the ball and the defense is giving up tons of points, how are we supposed to keep up? We're going to have drops, we've had drop problems multiple years recently (2015 and 2018 just to mention a few), you don't need milquetoast passing on top.

We need some Matt Corral shite going on. I'll take a few turnover filled game if we are at least trying to improve the offense and beat somebody.

Central Michigan should be a competition for the start against Miss St. The team this year just ain't it, but holy crap the freshman and young guys on this squad are going to be elite next year.
Posted by VeryReauxna_ish
Bossier City
Member since Dec 2020
2111 posts
Posted on 9/12/21 at 11:39 am to
Boutte, Palmer, and Bech are your weapons on offense. That's 60% of what LSU needs with the skill positions w/ a QB with 4 starts. Max played fine last night. It could be better sure but no running game and mixing in a few key drops is why the results look like they do. Jenkins ain't it at WR. His drops in the first half killed momentum. If he catches the ball they score more and put the game away a lot quicker. The sacks last night were due to 3/5 starters being out on OL. LSU has to have a playmaker at RB. TDP isn't getting it done. Maybe Emory can come back and be the answer, if not maybe one of the freshman, but they're miles behind where they need to be at RB. I think the defense made strides last night but we'll find out more when they travel to MOO U. The offense I still think can improve to be a threat if Bech gets all the meaningful reps at TE, somebody else emerges as a sure handed WR outside of Palmer and Boutte, we find a RB, and the QB run is put into the offense to help out the o-line and RB's. I realize LSU doesn't have QB depth at the moment but the run game would greatly benefit if there was a threat of the QB pulling the ball and threatening the edge. Tell him to slide or run out of bounds but we need to see more of it.
Posted by Zarkinletch416
Deep in the Heart of Texas
Member since Jan 2020
8412 posts
Posted on 9/12/21 at 11:41 am to
Not rocket science here. A good QB needs an aggressive and capable O/L to protect him. Give him enough time to check off his receivers. Max Johnson has a quick and accurate delivery, but without those precious nanoseconds to do that he's forced to abandon the pocket, turn his attention from delivery to escaping the clutches of D/L determined to bury his head in the dirt. Oh, and one more thing......those receivers have to make that clutch catch.

Having said that hopefully the O/L will gell and provide that critical protection.

I saw some improvement. McNeese played a great game. But LSU needs to make a marked improvement if they hope to compete in that brutal SEC schedule.

I try to be an optimist in all things. But I have my concerns.

This post was edited on 9/12/21 at 11:48 am
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